Barrack Obama and Joe Biden

I don’t know, but my dad thinks he is a cheating sleezeball and some words I will not write here, but I think you get the idea.

All i can say is that policies he isnt’ exposing… and his idea of taxing the business’es will only injure America’s ability to be courageous and get creative. HIs plans include poor people getting by at the expense of us. He also expects the government to fix and care for America. (sound a little familier :unamused: ) He has never created a bill and if he has plesae plesae tell me what it was. He never voted in a decided manor in Chicago. He voted present like so many times. His media coverage is horrible. The media love him becuase they want him to win so that they don’t get kicked out by Palin.

America Beware we are heading towards Sociolism and Communism…Media Bias, Government Control of Schools, Healthcare, and the poor. All at the expense of us. McCain isn’t much better but he does have “hope” in his back pocket in Palin. I’m so glad that if either candidates make it and fail the country Palin will hopefully be back in 4 years to try for the oval office.

Al-Bob: Someone told me that if you take out the concept of voting, we kinda live in a communist country already.

That might be true…
Then why did the founding fathers start all this if it all led to communism.
We should change it…or else we might develope into a cousin of Russia…

Al-Bob, I know you are a Christian, but HOW could you possibly back a man that supports the murder of millions of babies, even those who are already born? That alone should make you reconsider supporting him.

Oh i don’t…i believe that you destoy a life when you have an abortion.

But you are backing a man that supports those murders.

no…i’m saying that his policies will lead us to communism.
McCain will also but i will support McCain because he has Palin.
I DO NOT support Mr. Obama.

God forbid poor people get by.

Are you talking Biden or Obama? mediamatters.org/items/200702120005

As opposed to a trillion dollar war?

Wait… government control of schools? Aren’t they called public schools?

Are wars going to cost any less…the greatest price is human blood. I don’t want our troops in Iraq just as much as anyone but i don’t want to lost htis war just to save our skins. If we retreat unorganized all our work will start to tilt like a leaning tower. If it falls Iraq will be worse then when we arrived.

(do i hate poor people) no…do i believe that poor people should get benefits for not having work or money…no.

Here are somestatistics on how poor we really are…

The average american in poverty recieves $10,000 annually
did you know that the average american recieves only $40,000 annually
The average american poverty person is better off then 85% of the world.

97% of poor people own a color tv
25% own big screen tv’s
76% have air conditioning
56% have clothes dryers and 65% have clothes Washers
59% have stereos
55% have 2 tv’s or more
78% have VCR’s or DVD’s
73% own a car
30% own 2 or more cars
63% have cable or sattelitte
73% posses the all needed microwave.

So how poor are we really??
Or are we just not very smart in our judgement.

Here is a good percentage explaining that
66.6% of poverty people don’t work
34.4 Do work

8% of poverty cities are run by Republican Mayors

for every 2123 residents in new york there is one homeless person (hobo)

We are not poor. America should open its eyes to see that potential is what has created america not government. We the People have created the multi-million doller companies. If the american people would be let loose they would find stuff faster then China and Russia combined. America is creative but Government will only hinder that ability.

Ohh, I’m really sorry. I guess I must have interpreted your previous posts incorrectly. :blush: Sorry about that.

You’re side-stepping the fact that the ‘fiscally responsible’ party is the one that started the war with no plan to end it it sight and before any final conclusion of the previous one.

Not very clear what you’re trying to say here.

First, where is your source to back you up. Second, so what? Cable and ‘Big Screen’ aside, all of those are basic necessities in American culture. Good luck keeping a job when you don’t have a car to get to it.

Republicans aren’t going to make it smaller anytime soon. pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu … 46144.html

Speaking of the government hindering it’s citizens, don’t forget the Patriot Acts, illegal wiretapping, torture, non-combatant prisoners in legal limbo.

Go Obama/Biden! I gave him a 3 since I never really heard of him (or Palin) before he was picked, but I trust Obama’s choice. Of course I would have loved to have seen an Obama/Clinton ticket but I kinda knew that wasnt gonna happen. But I sincerely hope he wins. Now, I’ve read through this entire thread so I know people are gonna disagree with my choice. Just as I’ve disagreed with some things that have been said here. To quote Rex “I dont like confrontation!” I try to keep my political spouting to a minimum, so I dont often get vocal about these things. But I dont wanna start a huge fight, so I’m not gonna go on any McCain/Palin bashing spree. Like I said, you learn only to discuss politics with people who’ll agree with you :wink:

I thought congress unamnimously started the war on terror shrortly after 9/11?

I don’t think that the republicans are to blame just as much as the democrats are.

Besides now that the surge has worked the republicans are the hero’s for Iraq.

Repubicans i agree won’t make it smaller becuase it is being swayed by the media and the world. But there are still some who want to make government smaller.

Patriot Act…that act was brought about by congressmen who wanted to exploit the sudden change of feelings towards people who want to attack the USA. This act is one of those act taht people do when they feel threatened. They make laws without thinking clearly. Do I believe it isn’t working…no. Government is so powerful they won’t reveal what the act has done unless forced to.

tortue…do other nations do that? Should we do that…no. It hurts me just as much as it should hurt you to know that tortue is one of the ways that we get information out of people. But is it really done by republicans? I think its done by the USA.
i don’t know what non-combatant prisioners exactely means othe then people who don’t fight who are in troube becuase of their nationality. (like the japenese)
Unfortunitely out government and many people don’t trust people anymore. There are two things about this issue
1-People are evil, deep down inside if i offend you you would want to get back at me.
2-Today people are so not trusted that they are almost removed in any way possible.
3-Muslums are really hard to clearly understand.
I’ve heard muslums who say that they are not allowed to kill people but their representatives rejoice in bombings and getting rid of the evil ones. THeir culture is anit-american, its very hard to understand.

Al-Bob- It’s true that the Muslim culture is very different to other cultures, and contrasts with American culture, but I wouldn’t say that they’re ‘difficult to understand’. They’re just different. Also, not all Muslims want to go around killing people. Those that do are very much in the minority.

I heard something about Biden saying that he wasn’t the best candidate for the job, and that he would’ve preferred if Clinton were in his position, which I find very amusing. That’s like the last the last thing you ought to be saying in his position. :laughing:

Obama is not musliim.

Obama will not change one thing in America if he becomes president.

Obama is spending too much time battling Palin instead of McCain.

Let me tell you this, if a muslim takes a life of another human, no matter what the reason even if its religon. They are going to hell.

Azz: Why?

I disagree. I think he can change America, if not, he can certainly make a big step.

TSS-well he will make a big step…just which way?