Blegh. A sequel. I don’t care for what film Pixar makes a sequel for- whatever it is, I’m just not gonna be as happy as if they were spending their time making another original film. I’d be saying the same thing if it were an Incredibles sequel, or an A Bug’s Life sequel, or even a Monsters, Inc. sequel.
It’s not as though our opinions are really gonna change anything though, are they? Pixar are still going to make whatever films they plan on making. They don’t generally go with what the audience wants- they do what they feel is creatively best. And yes, generally, that goes hand in hand with what the audience truly enjoys, and if it doesn’t, well, who cares? Pixar make a ‘bad’ film, boo hoo, roll on the next film that they, no doubt, will have enjoyed making just as much.
Yes, but not as good as the original. Even Pixar can’t defy the fact that unless a film is very bad in the first place, the sequel will not surpass it (and I’m talking in terms of movies not originally designed to be sequels, not stuff like Lord of the Rings where the story is divided up into parts).
Not matter what you say those who love watching animation films and want to see more sequels will demand for more sequels especially the younger audience.
LG: The average critic rating of Toy Story was 4.9 out of 5, and Toy Story 2, 4.8 out of 5. It may not be as good as the original, but if the ratings are similar again, Cars 2 will get an average of 3.6 out of 5 (Cars got 3.7/5) It’s Pixar, eh? Azz: Especially Cars fans, too!
I’d love to be enthusiastic and if only I could stop being pessimistic…But nope, it ain’t gonna happen. Saying that a film is going to be good because it’s made by Pixar is an assumption that I can’t bring myself to make. I love Pixar, but at the end of the day, it’s still a company that needs to make money. Yes, they generally do have ideals that are more worthy, but why else would they make a sequel aside from the possible money options? At least in Toy Story’s case, they seemed genuinely interested in progressing with the characters. With Cars, all that’s been mentioned is the merchandising oppurtunity.
Well, you can blame DIsney for that greediness, if that’s the reason, but I’d love a Cars sequel, mainly because I’m a Cars fanatic, which there are many of around here.
This one better be on DVD, and a good DVD at that!
lizardgirl: They’ll always insist you’re wrong, but I admire you for trying! I’m not looking forward to Cars 2 but I can only hope it’s better than I think it would be, which isn’t really saying much …
I know- I trust Pixar, but if you put too much faith in the company, when they flop everyone will be all the more devastated. I trust them, but I don’t expect their films to be the absolute best - I just hope they’re enjoyable. But then again, I’m one of the few out there who appreciates normally unappreciated films so … I just try to look for the good in anything.
I was trying to say we should just have faith in Pixar, because we’re like the toys in Andy’s bedroom, we’re not seeing the full siutation and we should trust that Pixar knows what they’re doing. After all, we’re all fans here and we love them for a reason- obviously we can all agree on at least one thing- that Pixar knows how to make a GREAT movie and they’ve done it many times.
I don’t know how to explain it more clearly. We’re the toys in Andy’s room to Pixar’s Woody & Buzz. Sure Cars 2 may LOOK (/sound) bad, to us… but we don’t know what’s going on over at Pixar, we don’t know what they’re doing… but they’ve never failed before, and I think it’s just a little bit silly to think they’ll start now.
But why should we have faith in Pixar? Pixar isn’t some magical entitiy, devoid of the possibilities of corruption. Remember, Disney was once like Pixar, and look at it as a company now.
I just enjoy appreciating the individual films, and the individuals that worked on them at the time. I guess saying this on a Pixar fanboard isn’t the best place, but it’s one way of avoiding disappointment and not placing hope on something unnecessary. But hey, that’s just my viewpoint.
If and when a Cars 2 does come out, I’ll watch it and I’ll judge it then.
You’re right, they very well could become ‘corrupt’ like disney did… AFTER the current imagineers (John Lasseter, etc.) have left. But the same goes for any company, and that possibility alone doesn’t mean we should always assume that it’s about to happen any moment. That’s just silly! And I AM looking at Disney, and they’re doing a lot better. They’ve proven to me that they’ve turned down a new road and are no longer pursuing simple money-making detriment. (A lot of thanks to Pixar might I add.)
I think we should have faith in Pixar because Pixar is more than just a company to me and a lot of other people. Since you don’t think so, it makes sense that you’re looking at this a different way. But also try to see it from my perspective. I place hope on a Pixar film because I believe in them and I trust them. If or when I’m eventually let down, well then, the next film around I’ll just trust them less. To me, there is no reason to assume that the next Pixar film ISN’T going to be AMAZING because in my opinion every last film of theirs has been nothing short of amazing. Why deprive myself the fun of getting excited about a new Pixar film JUST because it’s a new Pixar film? I can’t do that with any other company, because no other company (in my opinion) has stamped out amazing film after amazing film. And in my eyes, that hope I get from a new Pixar film isn’t unecessary- it’s exciting!
Obviously we’re both looking at this in two different ways. It’s cool that you try not to place too much hope on any certain movie. But there are the people like me who enjoy that hope, and I say, for them, why not have faith that Cars 2 will be great?
Hog-Hug- You’ve made some very good points there, and I can definitely understand where you’re coming from. I do enjoy getting excited about Pixar films- I cannot WAIT to see Wall-E, for example!- but it’s such an early stage for something like Cars 2, and I just can’t help being disappointed that they’ve decided to make another sequel. I guess because I was a bit disappointed with the original Cars, which to me, was the only Pixar film that is short of amazing, then I feel no need to hope for much with the next one.
But with Pixar as a whole…I just can’t do the whole putting my faith into it as a company. But yes, you are right- we’re seeing this from two very different viewpoints. Although it’s always nice to be pleasantly surprised when you go to the cinema, having faith in something like Pixar must bring great joy to your life, and I’m pleased that that’s so, but as a whole, I rarely get excited about films before they come out. I just can’t bring myself to, just in case. But that’s what I get for being a pessimist.
Pixar is really the only company I trust as much as I do. Like I said, the reason for that is that they’ve never disappointed me. I’m disappointed in the direction Dreamworks has chosen to go, and BlueSkys’ films, though cute, never really “WOW!” me. Well, I do really love Ice Age and Robots but as much as I do love Robots, it isn’t really amazing in the same way Ratatouille is.
Anyway. I understand why you wouldn’t bet on Pixar, but I’d probably go nuts if I couldn’t find at least one company to trust. I plan to become an animator myself so I have faith in Pixar and hope to one day be a part of their team (as many here do)- I guess that’s why I respect and trust them so much.
As I’ve made obvious I’m also a big fan of Cars and it looks like, one of the few, so that’s why I’m also so trustful of Cars 2. (*note I’m not trying to repeat myself here, just trying to keep my posts relevent. ) And I guess I’m also a bigger fan of John Lasseter’s direction, wheras I think a lot of Pixar fans seem to prefer Brad Bird’s. And I realize Cars 2 isn’t being directed by John, but I like to think he knows what he’s doing and wouldn’t put just anyone at the helm of a project so personal. So in trusting John, I trust Cars 2 as well. At least until I see footage, and then I’ll start making a more informed decision.
I think Hog-Hug is spot on. Pixar has a very unique way of making their films; and they’re really isn’t any company that can even touch them, granted there are good non-pixar films all over the world. But the way Pixar goes about their films are unbeatable. I know a handful of people who will deny it up and down…but facts are facts and i’d be willing to bet we wont be disappointed with any film Pixar makes. Pixar isn’t just “a company to trust” it’s the right way to make films, it’s the Pixar way.
If you think about it… why did Disney go down hill? Maybe because everyone died or retired?
Well, I may be in the minority, but I adored that movie, it’s my fave of the Pixar films. Not that I can think of a “bad” Pixar film, I loved them all, but Cars just grabbed me emotionally for some reason in a way the other films haven’t. Perhaps because I know some small towns like Radiator Springs that are dying off…I think that’s part of it. But anyway…
I would love to see a sequel, I think there are a lot of little details to clean up.
Guido and Luigi are obviously not locals, I’d like to see a bit more of their back story. How did a couple of Italian boys end up running a tire shop in the middle of the desert anyway? Witnessed against a mafia don did we?
Ramone is a car with some power under the hood, I’m thinking he has to be an ex-street racer for some reason. He just comes off with a touch of bad boy to me, I think it’s because Flo has too much sass to fall for a total Mr. Nice Guy. Doc’s past already snuck up and bit him in the bumper, maybe Ramone’s could too?
Sally left a high power position in L.A…what else did she leave there? Old enemies? Lawyers are rarely popular with everyone. Maybe a corrupt law firm? Is that why she didn’t go to CA for the race?
After all, no one says the sequel has to focus on Lightning.
And yeah, I’d love to know what happened to the street rods. Snot Rod cracks me up way more than he should…a few tumbles into the cactus patches would probably do them some good too.
Saying that a film is going to be good because it’s made by Pixar is an assumption that I can’t bring myself to make. I love Pixar, but at the end of the day, it’s still a company that needs to make money. Yes, they generally do have ideals that are more worthy, but why else would they make a sequel aside from the possible money options? At least in Toy Story’s case, they seemed genuinely interested in progressing with the characters. With Cars, all that’s been mentioned is the merchandising oppurtunity.
I just try to look for the good in anything.
And I AM looking at Disney, and they’re doing a lot better. They’ve proven to me that they’ve turned down a new road and are no longer pursuing simple money-making detriment. (A lot of thanks to Pixar might I add.)