I’m all for all people witnessing what is said, so that they can draw their own conclusions.
Nevertheless, neither this board nor any other are fit for that, so I’m forced to answer you using the Private Message option.
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Now back to the Brave topic and stop with the personal side of things.
I agree with all you said
About the bears… I think the second one (Mordu) is simply a dangerous bear, not a person turned bear. I don’t think is the witch, who by the way I’m pretty sure is not evil.
Well, there are issues with your examples. One, films like WFRR are supposed to be slapstick, so it makes sense. That’s the whole premise of the movie!
Two, my complaints about the whole breast joke in the Brave trailer is that it’s crude. It’s not that it has any sort of mature references. I would not equate implied attempted r*pe to a lame fart joke. The former can be an extremely important plot device, but what does a fart joke do? Or a close-up of a woman’s large breasts? I’m not even complaining about showing anatomy in general; it’s more so the marketing of that joke that irks me.
And the reason it irks me is due to the sentence I bolded from your quote: these jokes are everywhere, argh! Note that I’m absolutely not trying to get into an argument with you, PF, but I’m using your post to explain my side. Flatulence/general crude jokes in animated films have bothered me for quite a long time because they’re just not necessary and they are very off-putting to me, and the problem is worsened because it seems that flatulence (or related) jokes are inevitable in every film! If something makes me roll my eyes, it should not be in a movie, even if it’s just a minor thing.
I watch lots of different types of films from different countries and for different audiences, and rarely do I see flatulence jokes as often as I do in American animated films. Why? Because the latter is intended for children, probably. But Pixar movies are for everyone, no? Pixar is too intelligent for stupid jokes like this. They have clever writers. I mean, look at the two pelicans in Finding Nemo: that’s the only clever/well-written flatulence joke I can think of from an animated movie, though there may be others. Pixar can make little kids and adults laugh at the same joke without having to resort to a poorly executed crude joke, but it seems like they just give up and throw in a bad joke for the sake of getting people’s attention.
And I will gladly voice my opinion, even if it makes me look miserable to some.
It’s interesting to see a short ad bring out so much emotion in people! That tends to happen when there’s fans like us around!
But let’s keep things civil, please. We are all entitled to our own opinions, and are more than welcome to express them. Just do so in a polite manner please. Pricklepants, you may not realize it or meant it, but Spirit did feel insulted by you. Let’s just remember that in heated discussions, we forget how loaded our words can be. I don’t want this post to sound like I’m picking out on you, so I want everyone, on both sides of this issue, to maybe chillax a bit, and not take things so personally.
As for Spirit’s shared account. It is unusual, but everyone on the site is fine with it and knows about it. They know what they’re doing.
I personally found the joke to be tasteless, but it doesn’t bother me so much to get worked up over it. I don’t expect an absolute perfect movie to my tastes anywhere, even from Pixar. I accept that there’ll be jokes I don’t enjoy. And that 2 second breast joke won’t take away my enjoyment of a film.
The trailers and ads for Pixar’s films- and animated films in general- seem to play up the slapstick even when it isn’t too prevalent in the films. I cringed every time I saw a Cars 2 trailer or ad last year, because nearly all included that scene where Mater goes into the wrong bathroom. But really, that was only a few seconds and it was a quick joke in the film. The ads don’t properly represent the films. I wasn’t a fan of Cars 2, but the few crude jokes in there really didn’t have any impact on my judgment of the film as a whole.
That said, I can’t say I particularly like this scene- I do agree that it seems very low for Pixar. But if past films are any indication, the crude jokes will probably be kept to a minimum in Brave. Maybe they’ve even cut this particular part and someone just threw it in the TV spot. One can hope, anyway
This is a really good point. A lot of times, a trailer can be different from what the movie turns out. The best example I can think of is Tangled, but Cars 2 and The Lorax are other ones.
Tangled is a great example. I understand why it was marketed as such (not that I agree), but I was very pleased with the product, even though the trailers made me cringe overall. I wonder if there will be a better compromise with attracting a wide variety of audience types while still maintaining accuracy and… integrity? Not sure if that’s the word I’m lookin’ for.
Why can’t we just have more trailers like Japan?
Also, there are less than 2 months left until Brave in the US! I think the exact number is ~52 days. I’m also looking forward to “La Luna” and an MU teaser.
I watched the latest trailer. Impressive as usual. I love how they didn’t mention Cars 2 on the “From the creators of” caption, because we all know how successful it was. I think that’s another way of saying they’ll redeem themselves with Brave.
Oh, the marketing for Tangled was atrocious. I mean, the artists who worked on the film actually had to come online and tell people that the film was better than it looked. Isn’t the purpose of advertising to HELP the film, not hurt it?
These ads seem to pander to the lower common denominator, and I don’t really get why they need to exist at all. They don’t accurately portray the films, so the people who are attracted to these ads might not like the movie as much anyway. Instead, they just turn off people who may enjoy Brave but aren’t Pixar fans, so they’d be less likely to look past the poor advertising.
Integrity’s a good word for what’s needed here. I just don’t get why they have to stoop low at all. Like you say, the trailers and ads in Japan are fantastic, and I’m sure that isn’t hurting the box office there.
Guys, the Merida face character has started to appear in the Disney parks! Apparently when the characters first appear they’re still a work in progress, so she may change a little from what’s seen here.
This movie looks A M A Z I N G on the large screen. You can tell normal audiences are looking forward to this movie, and everyone laughs at all the humor. This movie will be a big success, guaranteed
Flatulence/general crude jokes in animated films have bothered me for quite a long time because they’re just not necessary and they are very off-putting to me, and the problem is worsened because it seems that flatulence (or related) jokes are inevitable 
