Central Monsters University Discussion

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Spirit of Adventure

Those questions are VERY insightful SoA. While I think the focus will, again, be on the both of them…it’s an interesting concept (and one with merit, thanks to Cars 2).
Sullivan’s change (probably will be here, even though this is apparently MANY years before M.I.) will be some-what drastic…though Wazowski…appears to be the same. Generally in a good story, there’s some change over the main protagonist (and/or antagonist)…at least from my notice. Wazowski doesn’t seem to have that…unless it’s done and at the end it’s “oh no I’m not going to change” for a good a laugh.

Still…since Celia, apparently, is in this…there’s also the focus on her and Wazowski’s relationship…although honestly…10 years no commitment (which Celia MIGHT want…and if not, her parents would)…I just…I don’t see it. I’ve seen enough relationships that at even less than half that it doesn’t work out for either person.

Leirin

Downgrading? Wazowski seems the same to me…aside from the braces. Stereotypical premise involved, it might be a bit too much to push the geekish concept…the guy already is having to work with contancts (maybe?)…that’s if they were around then, I can’t remember in human-terms.

Wazowski seems the same to me as he is 10 years (or whatever they’re saying it is now) from now. Sullivan, for the most part, has gone through a change.

ObsessedWithPixar

I think…Wazowski got enough of a role before, but that’s me personally. Him and Sullivan would likely get the same amount of role-heaviness they got before. Perhaps even more so if they’re showing his…“budding” relationship with Celia.
Cars 2 had an interesting underlying buddy feature…while Mater’s adventure was the focus, the underlying portion dealt with the whole “being yourself” and “remain friends” concept.
So yes…from the get-go this seems to be a buddy picture. Although unlike legends Bob and Bing, they’re going to dislike each other at the start and then become friends-for-life-but-can-still-argue-when-the-bill-fits heh heh heh.

Pixfan

Now here’s a good night picture. Not too much to say about this one…it’s beautiful I give it that.
As for what’s going on…many theories. Though I highly predict that thing Wazowski is on is…not a monster. Maybe a monster version of a “pet”, maybe even the dog equivalent…or…dog/pig equivalent. Maybe even the fraternity mascot or something.
Sure, it could be a monster, but for some reasons I think monster “pet”.

Now that I think about it…my guess is the little bugger stole Wazowski’s hat and wasn’t about to give it up. Chase occurred…Wazowski grabbed on to the sucker…and learned the hard way that…
…that sucker is NOT going to slow down. chuckles

With regards who the main protaganist is, I believe a movie can handle two main protaganists and that this will possibly be the case for this. I mean kind of like the fact in -romantic- films, you can have the two main lovers, the main focus here we’re getting is that this is going to be on their platonic (original movie jokes non-withstanding) relationship. (Of course some films still focus on one person specifically in the relationship- but some try the equal representation way.)

And heck a character doesn’t have to learn anything or change at all to be a main character. I mean Nostalgia Chick did have a point when she said Ariel from The Little Mermaid didn’t really develop as a character- she had obstacles to what she wanted, she overcame them and got what she wanted. She’s still the main character- she just doesn’t have a great character arc, or any kind of character arc actually. Her father has one instead by learning to let her go and that not all humans are teh evil. But he isn’t the main character all the same. (Still the most developed of the Disney dads though for sure).

Granted it’s possible one of them might get more development and it seems in this case this might be Sulley… I mean after all in the original movie Sulley is generally a nice guy, and popular because he’s well, nice to people. In the trailer he’s kind of a jerk- a possibly ENTERTAINING jerk but there we go. A possible reason also why he was unimpressed by Randalls jokes. Perhaps in his own way Randall reminds him too much of how he used to be. (A way to try and make the whole tie to the first film more cohesive maybe).

Of course you’re right. Within Pixar you have Flik, who doesn’t change at all, but makes every other character change.

But what a protagonist needs is to helm of the main storyline of the film (in the first one, it’s clearly Sulley).

Of course there are other films that have two main characters riding the same main storyline, I’m just speculating that, in this case, it will be Mike.

-Nods-. Right.

Well, Mike granted also could possibly helm a movie with more success than Mater did in Cars 2. I mean I’m not Mike’s greatest fan but Mike has more wide spread appeal among adult fans I feel as well as kids too. (Mater only had the latter to be fair.)

Still in a situation when someone is getting picked on it IS pretty common to go and see how things are from the viewpoint of that particular person than say the other way. Pixar may decide to go the other way, but eh sometimes something is tried and true for a good reason.

Mentalguru

Alright, I was excluding a plot of those types. The kind where the protagonist is good and all from the start, and is in the end, but has to come to the realization they were “fine to begin with” or “had what they needed right in front of them”. A journey essentially to the same place. I just…have an irk about those things.

I’m leaning more toward Sullivan having the change, Wazowski not having one.
Randall’s joke (from my recall there was one notable one)…may have been a reference to that…but in all honesty it was less…creative than what Sullivan did way back when.
taps lip Hmm…actually that joke reminded me of something interesting if they would show…hmm…

Spirit of Adventure

Yes Flik the claimed “freak” as essentially coined by his co-workers and the like at the start of his journey, and then accept him and his inventive ideals at the end. No change for Flik, who was fine from the start (albiet eccentric and…some-what accident prone), but change for others.
It boils down, in the perspective of just the protagonist, to if the protagonist has the change or if everyone (for the most part) has the change FOR the protagonist.

Speaking about protagonists’ changes (not that I think they’re as important as sometimes they’re made to be), I think Monsters, Inc. is notable among most contemporary animated films in that both of their main character don’t change a lot.

There are little things, like Mike getting to accept Boo eventually, for instance.

I think it was a brave move, since I find most films with children as their main target feel the need to be politically correct and have the character learn a lesson of life and become a very different person, which sometimes can feel forced. I real life, we change a little, but we very seldom go trough a complete paradigm shift.

Actually I believe Sullivan’s perception of humans was a change. At first he didn’t think much at all of scareing kids…and his interactions with Boo changed that. Of course that’s not saying scareing children is a completely bad thing. Although honestly, Sullivan still has growing to do.

Sometimes lessons aren’t learned, and you don’t always NEED a message. Not every film has to be so pushy with it’s own agenda that you STOP enjoying yourself and get annoyed that your being force-fed an ideal.
And yes, in reality, complete shifts don’t happen overnight.

Yes, that’s among the little things that change for the characters, but they remain essentially the same.

Obviously, it won’t be the case for this one, at leas not for Sulley.

lol poor Mike. The smaller/lighter weight person should definitely be the one on the top bunk.

Funny pic though.

youtube.com/watch?v=THhRSJC5 … e=youtu.be

An new teaser for MU is up. :slight_smile:

Thanks for posting that trailer, K9Girl! I liked this one way better than the previous trailers we’ve seen. Has anyone seen this?

monstersuniversity.com/edu/

Awesome. They really went all out promoting the movie, which I am now impressed with just because of that website. The work they put into it is in my opinion extremely well detailed! It caused a twitch in my ex-student heart because it looks exactly like a college website, complete with a bookstore link and actual merchandise with the MU logo (which you buy through the Disney store after clicking on the ‘check-out’ button.

The new viral video was as awesome as the mock website.

And the photorealism of the images is incredible. I’m sure it at first fooled some people who watched the add on TV and they thought it was from a real university.

It will be interesting to see how Randell is in the film. And by the video, it looks amazingly detailed, and good story.

That Teaser is awesome! Amazing detail.

The viral marketing for Monsters University is pretty cool. Reminds me of those Buy N Large advertisements Pixar did for Wall-E.

I’m not sure how legit this is, where it’s from, or whether it’s simply fan art, but I found this image during my MU googling frenzy last night:
pixar.wikia.com/Randall_Boggs
Scroll down and you’ll see a version on a wee-looking Randall. It’s pretty cute even if it is just fan art. Slashfilm.com updated their blog on the MU information they posted, and said that a “young” Randall was going to be showing up in the movie. I guess we will wait and see.

I’m huge for spoilers. I’ve gone as far as reading the entire leaked script for the Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End before it was released in theaters, completely ruining the entire movie experience for myself. But I LOVE spoilers. Anyone has anything at all on MU that I may be missing, please feel free to share with me.

EDIT: I’ll do you guys one better:
io9.com/5969434/monsters-univers … nster-frat
Again, can’t guarantee the overall legit-ness of this site, but I think the banners are fairly legit-looking. And we get to see a monster from the fraternity house of Roar Omega Roar. :stuck_out_tongue:

He is pretty cute.

I think it’s legit.

Not sure I like it very much, tough. I suppose I’ll warm towards it eventually.

I have to say that I wasn’t too optimistic about the overall idea of a prequel at the beginning, and even much less the theme. College has been done to the death so there IS a possibity that it won’t live up to the hype. It just hit very close to home for me though, since university brings back some very fond memories about being an undergrad student.
One more thing I couldn’t help but over-analyze is the seemingly more youthful appearance of both Mike and Randall. They look younger than Sulley, IMO, so I’m wondering if those two are freshmen and Sulley is already a junior or senior.