Ah, thank you Waz…username Wazowski heh heh.
Was actually going to confirm with someone who saw the film, a good friend of mine, but for the moment, taking your word.
So yes…seems the 700th is indicating of this year and not in the film. Makes sense.
It’s gone up to 75%. It was at 71% yesterday, so it’s improving!
It deserves an 88-95 but that whole stupid placebo about “Pixar is dead!” is going to put it at a 78-83.
Great film!
And some ways you know that this movie is retroYou can tell in the film that this is a long time before MI because the factory looks older and the door stations are more clunky, the big board on the scare floor is retro, and scream canisters are older
Does a score even matter? I don’t even care what percentage it gets. The whole “Pixar is dead” thing is so stupid, it just makes people seem like they are anxious to make history. It’s too unlikely that Pixar would fail anytime soon, or hopefully ever, so people have to pick the easy target films to make a good film studio look bad.
Neither Cars 2 nor Brave were bad films, on average highly enjoyable. I personally love both, but I also fail to see how they can’t even at least be considered decent or still fine while being the least of the Pixar films (in others’ opinions). I already know that this will get mixed to possibly positive reviews, but I couldn’t care less anymore. I’m only concerned about my own opinion. I think it will be standard good at worst and surprisingly excellent at best.
LQ has a point, and I think I mentioned this before…
Reviews are suggestive. They’re a good jumping base for an opinion but…humans are humans. Pixar is not perfect, nothing is, but they are good at what they do. Sure, some films may not be as thought provoking or as great as some of the others but…
What some people think is this: “You’ve got to keep raising the bar”. As in, whatever seems to be made next HAS to just be better than the previous. It doesn’t have to be. Sometimes you can make the greatest thing in the world one time, then the next…you falter a little. So what?
I’ve seen Cars 2, though not Brave yet. Saw it with a friend of mine actually and it was a great experience. Sure, it had a different way about it than it’s predecessor, but it was still enjoyable. That’s the base point of anything created to be given, if it’s enjoyable.
Things like that, I just adore. Attention to detail.
Huh, didn’t recall seeing that in this topic…regardless, good notice Waz, very good.
Nicely put, LQ and Nexas. I’m having to learn to let this sudden Pixar-hate with some critics roll of my shoulders. I love all their films equally and I seriously doubt that MU won’t be awesome. After all, it’s hard to trust critics when they give a movie with inappropriate themes or morals positive ratings and a good, fun, and positive animated film gets mixed reviews. Even so, I’m still pulling for MU to possibly get a little more love from the critics. As long as I love it, and I have friends and family who feel similarly, that’s all that matters! 
Nice! Thanks, Nexas and OWP. I think it will be good. And I mean, opinions are opinions, but it doesn’t mean the other fans should have to be disappointed by the new Pixar films too just because some minorities are.
This is true too, and often forgotten about.
I think this will get more positive ratings than the last two Pixar movies, but if I ever do read any reviews, it will be after the film comes out. Reading critical reviews affected my opinions on Toy Story 3 and Cars 2 the first time I saw them, even with an open mind, and I needed to re-watch both in order to have my own honest opinion on them (I love both by the way).
Critics are critics. They may rarely reach the positive understanding some have (Anton Ego anybody?). The film’s not even out and about proper.
The problem with disregarding critics by using that argument is that you’re becoming a critic yourself, by taking the attribution of deciding which themes and morals are inappropriate.
Like Nexas said, humans are humans and thus prone to mistakes, but film criticism in general is a serious expertise that is rarely concerned by political correctness. A film that’s fun and positive isn’t necessarily better than one that touches delicate issues.
Anyway, let’s wait for the consensus to settle down the score. Until it’s reached, the percentage is bond to variate.
I couldn’t have said it better myself^.
I for one often enjoy films with dark themes as much if not more than light-hearted films.
I think what ObsessedWithPixar meant was that she couldn’t rely on the current and upcoming reviews in general because she has found their reviews of Pixar films as of recent years distasteful. I’m sure she doesn’t doubt that there are some critics out there that she can agree with, but she’s indicating that it may take reading a handful of negative or mixed reviews before she could come to similar terms with another person.
And I think what OWP meant by inappropriate themes or morals was inappropriate in the sense that it would not be suitable to a youthful mind or one who wants to steer clear of certain ideas that could be considered inappropriate (i.e. maybe certain elements of PG-13 or R-rated films), which I can relate to and agree with. Maybe she can clear that up better than I can.
I also agree with OWP in thinking it’s okay to disregard the critics’ opinions at first if it helps. I am personally willing to read the critical reviews - once I’ve seen the film and already have my opinion on it - that way, I can decide on whether or not I do agree. Some can read ahead if they like, but I can’t because it affects my viewing of a film. I had trouble enjoying Cars 2 the first time I watched it even with an open mind because as I watched it, all I could think about were the (usually overdone) unpleasant things many people wrote in their reviews I read prior to watching the film, and I realized that afterward. I had to clear my head, and a few weeks later I had a re-watch it, and I was finally able to comfortably watch the film and really enjoy it. A similar thing happened a year earlier with Toy Story 3 where on my first viewing I said it was perfect and outstanding after already reading the reviews, then I talked with my mom about what she thought, and realized her thoughts actually pretty much matched a lot of what I truly thought about it. I re-watched that film too, and I realized while we (both) still really like it, I think some people may have over-praised it. I still really like it to this day, though, more each time I see it.
While I think this statement is true, I find it ironic that you bring it up, not in a bad way. It seems to me that the films that get the most praise are exactly the ones that touch on delicate issues, and the more in-depth the movie goes with those issues, the more praise it seems to get. I didn’t use to see a lot of solely fun/positive films get bashed, but now it seems like they get a lot more of a bad rap these days than before, including films that don’t deserve it if they don’t add that extra something. Sometimes the fun ones can be better, and sometimes the more serious ones can be better, or maybe both can be equally great. I love numerous films from both categories, and like numerous films from both categories.
Sorry for ranting, but to finish off, these are the only reasons I don’t want to read reviews or really consider critics’ opinions right now. It’s just for my sake. Otherwise, I may not be owing myself a right to my own, honest opinion of something. Some of you may know me as a huge fan of John Lasseter in particular. He says he typically doesn’t read the reviews, and I like how he says he doesn’t make movies for film critics (meaning for most), and I agree with him and what he means by that.
In that phrase you summarize that, in fact, we are thinking alike.
That’s what I was trying to say. Morality and relative light-heartedness have nothing to do with a film’s quality. There are plenty of good and bad films in either side of the spectre.
I’ve definitely seen far more positive than negative impressions, whether they be from casual tweets or full reviews. The guys at /Film (who I consistently trust), for instance, gave it a very good review: slashfilm.com/monsters-unive … -universe/
I tend not to think too much of the Hollywood trade magazine reviews. There aren’t a whole lot of other real reviews out, but the only truly negative writeups I’ve seen are the handful on Rotten Tomatoes; from everyday folks and most film bloggers, I’ve seen almost nothing but enthusiasm.
I’m seeing the film on Monday so I’ll be sure to post my thoughts!
I’m sorry, Spirit. I didn’t mean to get that carried away. Half of what I said was mostly just to clear up confusion about some of the stuff that’s been posted.
For the record, there are a couple of critics who I like to go to. On a personal level though, I make problems for myself by reading too much into the reviews. It’s my own flaw. Reading a couple at a time is fine with me, but it’s also important that I don’t fall into a general consensus just because there is one. A lot of times I’ve formed an opinion of something from a mixture of others’ opinions. I don’t mean to, it just happens that way sometime.
But I’m glad we agree on the main idea that any film genre can turn out good or bad? Just, nothing in the subject matter should determine the overall quality.
Don’t worry, you didn’t. Sorry if it sounded like I was implying that.
Has the tomatometer reached consensus yet? I’m afraid to look at it.
Don’t worry, you didn’t. 
I wasn’t going to check either, but what the heck? I’m curious myself: [spoil]78%[/spoil] with no consensus yet. All I checked was the percentage. Pretty good, about what I thought it might be for now. [spoil]I think it could reach the 80’s with no problem.[/spoil].
The Tomato Meter’s score is improving everyday. I’ve been checking!