could wall-e upgrade?

Pixar's Feature Films WALL•E
#1

dont read following paragraph… there are spoilers if you haven’t watched it, and i dont want any ruined wall-e experiences on my hands

when i was done watching this movie i felt bad for wall-e because he couldn’t fly with eve because she was more advanced than he was. but then i realized they both must have been designed around the same time… the probes were made when the spaceship was, and wall-e was made to try and clean up earth while the ship was “vacationing”. but doesnt that mean they use roughly the same type of technology? could wall-e be upgraded to something like eve? this also begged the question, that were any advancements made in technology on the axiom, or has it remained the same ever since take-off…i assume so. it looks the same when compared to the axiom advertisement featuring the slimmer profiled people. i also realized the trash compactors in the axiom resembled wall-e very strongly, so the tech. must not have changed much… could wall-e then be upgraded to do some of eve’s functions?

#2

Your spoiler block didnt work :stuck_out_tongue: Might want to edit that.

But I would state that he was created for a different function that EVE was. The need to fly wasn’t needed for WALL-E to function. I suppose its possible (If you want to write a fanfic about it…go for it. I think it would be a good idea) But also, like you stated, the drive to invent new things was put on hold for 700 years. So no advancement, sadly.

#3

I think WALL-E can be upgraded. WHen is old parts wear out, and all you got are new ones, then you can consider that an upgrade right there.

#4

One worry about performing such an extensive upgrade is that in the process of doing so, his neural net might be damaged beyond recovery. Remember that he has already had a close call with memory and personality wipe.

#5

Also totally true. Which would steal all of what he is. And we dont want that at all do we?

#6

what confused me was i thought that [spoil]chip thing in his body[/spoil] held his memory, but i was wrong when [spoil]eve replaced it and he remembered with a few reminders[/spoil]… is his memory transferrable and tangible, or is it really inside him and cant be put into a robot more like eve

#7

hi woof i havent met you! lol umm well he can only replace parts whe n hes brken i think so idk maybe…

#8

I think he is going for upgrade to better hardware…not just repairs

#9

I don’t see why he would’ve needed it in the first place. The WALL-E was a versatile machine that was primarily designed to shovel and compact garbage. They were intended to be left alone for five years, yet eventually a million broke down and one lasted for centuries. To sum it all up, even if there were upgrades, WALL-E doesn’t need them. He’s awesome as he is! :smiley:

#10

I don’t think the other WALL-E units broke down. I believe that when “Operation Cleanup” was declared a failure, a kill signal was sent out to the WALL-Es. For some unknown reason, our hero did not receive the shut-down command and so he kept on going, alone, for seven centuries. And somewhere along the line, his neural net made the jump to consciousness.

And it is that glitched neural net that makes wide-ranging upgrades dangerous. Swap out the wrong circuits, and bye-bye mind.

PS: I believe the blue circuit board that was shone to be heavily damaged was not part of his processing or memory circuits, but was instead responsible for power regulation. He was acting very much like he did when he was low on power near the beginning of the film.

#11

Maybe, good theory on that. Make a fanfic about it!
But it seemed [spoil]that if you looked at the other WALL-E’s they had stuff broken down…I’ll have to see it again to be sure[/spoil]

#12

Yes, but you have to remember that WALL-E, our WALL-E, learned to cannibalize parts from shut down units. That’s likely the only reason he was able to keep going for 700 years.

#13

I just realized something: Buy n Large ran by itself. I mean, everything you saw on the Axiom, including EVE, were from around 2110. And since the humans new nothing and nothing was invented, and there were no Buy n Large officials, it just ran by itself.

#14

I think Operation Cleanup failed BECAUSE the WALL-E’s broke down. And not all the WALL-E’s look like our WALL-E “fed” on them. Some of them had crushed bodies under garbage and were lying on the ground, so I think they ‘died of natural causes’ rather than being shut down on purpose

#15

Possibly but Axiom brings up an excellent point. It does run itself. Redundantly run by machines for people. Its crazy!

#16

Yes. If you notice the 700 year old Shelby Forthright recordings and that Axiom video ad on Earth, it shows things like Auto, EVE, hover chairs, Stewards in the background, foods in cups, and recreation games, which you see in 2815. It seems that nothing is updated nor improved. It was left the way when the humans first got onboard. You don’t even hear BnL announcements with high officials or any at all that are up to date, with the exception of the Ship’s Computer’s product announcements, which to me, just keep doing the same thing. Nothing new. All the old advertisements. I suppose even when the BnL high officials, including the CEO, got onboard some starliner, they did the same thing as all the other humans: nothing, except watch a holo-screen. All people probably think of BnL is something that gave them everything. The computers just keep everything going like right when they stopped making new things. I always thought what the human scientists/inventors were doing because the humans did nothing and knew nothing, but then I realized there were none, just a defunct lifestyle. I mean, it was supposed to be a 5 year cruise.

#17

we know how old wall-e is…how about eve? you think she is brand new, or [spoil]life probes[/spoil] were repaired/sent back out when they return for 700 years?

#18

Probably the latter.

And Axiom, I think your right. The fact that you dont see any of that stuff really speaks to how the society works in the time that Wall-E is supposed to take place

#19

[spoiler]I believe that it’s merely an error in the storywriting. EVE is supposed to be a new, advanced robot (and it’s very apparent that the technology went into making her is different, if one recalls how her circuitry glows while in the Repair Ward, while WALL-E has a more modern circuit board [random note: I suspect that either WALL-E’s circuit board or one of the three that EVE tried to offer him can actually be found in an old Mac computer–it would fit Pixar’s love of easter eggs]), and yet, as pointed out, not only are there no advancements being made on the Axiom (by the way, if they compact and throw away all their trash, where do they get any raw materials to keep going for 700 years?), and yet, as also pointed out, EVE and WALL-E had to have been made at approximately the same time.

The paradox suggests, to me, that the storywriters wrote themselves into a corner, or simply didn’t notice the inconsistency.

Another possibility is that scientists continued to advance for at least another generation, before people began to forget the importance of education (and life). Look at EVE’s ship; it looks far more advanced than the Axiom itself. Sleek, gracefully-shaped, while the Axiom, while clearly having very powerful engines, has a much rougher design and looks to be made up of a bunch of metal plates (the seams of which are visible). It’s possible that the captain of the Axiom, about 30 to 50 years after the beginning of the cruise, remembered their planet and ordered the construction of the probe vessels/droids. Maybe EVE had been already designed from the latest technology, but it seems inconsistent that she would have been built at the same time as WALL-E, as her technology has at least thirty to fourty years’ advancement (compare our modern microcircuits with old transistor systems).

Another suggestion of improvements since the Axiom’s launch is that AUTO himself understands how to use a book, while the Captain does not. This means that AUTO has seen a book used before, so the Axiom must have gone paperless since its launch (or, in any case, books ceased being used, which means that there were some advancements at first, while it still -was- being used).

Bottom line, I think that if the storywriters noticed this problem at all, they probably left it just so people like us would figure it out for them. Most people wouldn’t notice.[/spoiler]

#20

Your exaustive search and cretique impresses me!
Wow, you make several good points, all valid.

The idea that it took sometime for the computers to start running everything is a great point. At first I’m sure that the crew and passangers were’nt always so lazy. This would make up for the idea that there would be some time of advancement.