Nice.
All right time to take cake of questions in that one long post (sorry for not repsonding to it earlier 
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Oh, by the way, thanks, TS2! 
Not if it’ll take 20 minutes to read, no, but if it’s short and to-the-point, then of course. I’ve been in many debates with atheists and i’ve learned not to fall into that trap, because they’ll give me a link to a mile-long website (full of single-spaced text) and know that i won’t read it, and then accuse me of being ignorant or selfish. No, i am not ignorant or selfish, i’m just practical. Sorry if that took too long to read.
No. Wikipedia is “evil” because it is anarcho-communism. “Evil” in quotes because i just don’t like it. 
It’s a little joke i have.
Just like Wikipedia. Good intentions, but still “evil”.
Probably, but don’t expect me to read it; i’ve been in public school, you know. I only ask those questions not because i don’t know the answer or what your answer will be, but because i’m leading to a conclusion based on your answer.
Already said it, but i’ll say it again: No, Yes, No, Faith.
Is that all?
A113:
I don’t know about you, but that is pretty ignorant to me. If someone provides you with evidence, that is their support that they have to back up their facts. You choosing to not even glace at it because it is too long is not only ignorant, but immature and rude. If you present someone the bible as your evidence to back up your claims, how would you feel if someone refuses to look at it because the bible (even its stories) are too long? 
You just don’t get it do you A113? Why do you think bawpcwpn and rachel tag you as ignorant? Well, maybe because you are!
And I disagree with you strongly that the Theroy of evolution should not be taught in classes in schools. You see, I learned Evolution in my biology class. And even though I don’t believe in evolution, that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t learn it. It is intresting to learn from another perspective of how life started on Earth.
It should be. God this thread makes me so mad. I never thought I’d say this about any thread but, can someone PLEASE LOCK UP THIS THREAD?!?!
TS2: Well, I would want to. I see your reasons why. THings are getting a little heated up right now, but ultimately, it is up to the admins, or bawpcwpn.
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TSS: But you’re a mod. Can’t you lock posts, too?
I have no issues with this thread as is consists mainly of good healthy debate, even though some aren’t participating fairly and adhereing to the basic conventions of debate. Il let the other mods make the final group decision on the fate of this thread however, but until such time, please continue to debate till the cows come home.
I can, but I can’t just do it when ever I want too. In this case, in order for it to lock up, the mods and other admins have a discussion about it and then decide.
BUt it is a really good topic to talk about, even though things get heated up.
If it disturbs you that much then it’s best to not visit. I haven’t bothered with the Wall or Prayer thread for that very reason.
The Wall of Prayer isn’t for people to post debating topics…its to say encouraging and uplifting posts to people and groups. The goal isn’t to debate but to encourage in a positive way…
This topic specificly is to present 2 different view points and have people choose a side and talk about them. THen there comes points where niether can agree so the debate ensues.
I can’t stomach the religiousness, just as someone who can’t stomach debating their points of view should avoid this thread.
Kinda gotten off topic. I believe rachaelcakes had posted something about the formation of the grand canyon for the third or forth time and then A113 said something about noah’s flood.
Thank you for answering my questions, A113. Better late than never, I suppose. A few more questions…
Do you believe that man and dinosaurs co-existed?
How old do you think the Earth is?
Or, how long has man been on this Earth?
I’ll leave the other researching, such as the Grand Canyon up to the others, mostly because I’m lazy and they do a better job at it. Besides, it seems as if LG has answered that GC question of yours.
The reason I’m asking you questions and asking you to prove your case, is because you are the one that is stating your beliefs in a theory that has been proven to be wrong, and I believe what scientists tell me is true because they are a lot smarter than I am, have done their research, don’t have a hidden agenda, and I trust their other theories, so why should evolution be any different if that has passed the same level of rigorous testing? Just like if I made an out-there claim I would expect others to challenge me and ask me questions and to give them reasons why I believe in what I believe.
Isn’t this a good thing? If we let scientists let their own religious agendas get in the way of determining our scientific theories, then this means that we’d end up with a theory like creationism where the evidence assessed around whether or not it suits an already conceived theory. Creationism is limited by Christianity (even though they are one and the same), evolution is not limited by such religion.
Correction - it’s a theory that moulds itself around a story written 2000 years ago.
Which proves my point exactly. You already have in your mind what you want to prove, so you try to find evidence (while disregarding evidence that suggests to the contrary) to support that theory, but science is the opposite. Shouldn’t the fact that a theory that has started out with a preconceived notion of how the world came to be, be looked upon with suspicion? The theory should change with new evidence, even if it ends up being totally different to what you thought it would be, or even if you have to totally throw that theory out the window, such as God creating the world 7000 years ago, then so be it. New evidence should change the theory, and not otherwise.
My stars! You are asking me that… You’re the one that was claiming that Creationism deals with science, so that’s why I was asking you if you for scientific/geological/biological research, whatever research you have. Anything. Please don’t wait for us to not give you answers before you provide us with evidence.
I’m not trying to mock you, rather some of things you say are very… amusing. And what makes you think atheists/evolutionists/non-Christians don’t have a purpose for life? Or feel like we don’t have a purpose in life? Because, like I already said, I feel I do have a purpose(s) in life and you can go back and read what they are if you really want to know.
I have a purpose in life aswell.
we all do which means that we differ in our ideas…maybe the purposes have a special meaning behiond them…some sort of goal…
I don’t. I’ll make no bones about it. I do sometimes think, “what’s the point?” I have dreams, I have ambitions. Why? I don’t know. Ironically, one of my ambitions is to try and figure out why we even have ambitions.
Thing is, although I do think about it sometimes, it’s not always on my mind. And I don’t feel as though I need to have some kind of divinity or all-knowing being to make my life worth living.
Rachel- Well, I hope I have. I don’t think it’s going to get any acknowledgement, though.
TSS- There will never be agreement, because agreement involves some people changing what they believe in, and that’s not going to happen just because of a chat on an internet forum. But at least we’ve all learned something about each other’s views, right? I’ve learnt things I’ve never known about before, and hopefully so has everyone else. Therefore, this thread has been worthwhile.
you mean you don’t have any goals for life??
I mean what is the point of us being here if we don’t have some type of goal or achievement level?
Why is the universe so deep?
What is my purpose?
I do in the short term, doing well at school, going to uni, getting a good career, maybe having a family one day, that sort of thing.
But on the other hand, if I suddenly decided that I wanted to be a hobo for the rest of my life, or that I wanted to commit suicide, then what difference would it make? That’s my point.
It sounds very depressing, I know. But think about it this way- let’s just say that there is no afterlife. Then what would be the point? The whole world could commit suicide all at the same time, and it wouldn’t ‘matter’. So why don’t we do this? Because it would be detrimental to the human race, of course. Which is why, I believe, religion was developed in the first place; as a mode of purpose, as a way of seeing things for more than they actually are. Because saying that each individual in the world has no significance, saying that you and I don’t matter, is very depressing.
Okay, let’s talk about cakes and cookies and balloons and happy things now.
Now that we have talked about stuff that is depressing and sad lets go over to this address and have soeme fun…
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go make some mad libs…
I’ll post another topic later today for the evolution/creation thread…