The bible shouldn’t be taken out of context just like Abraham Lincolns Gettysburg Address shouldn’t be taken out of context. Every verse has meaning behind it. Every passage has a certain value to it. If you take any away it won’t neccesarily ruin the bible but if you continued to take away (like some denominational churches have) you could rewrite the bible into something completely different.
Does this help at all??
How about we start something new…
yes, let’s.
Here is a satirical look at our current situation Australia where the Government is planning to impose a filter on our internet, some say which is similar to that of China. It deals with filtering the Bible and is an entertaining read and shows many of the problems with interpreting the Bible.
communism…the work of communism.
I feel help-less when these types of things happen. Oh wait i don’t need to control it…God will do that for me.
That makes me feel better…
Just a question…I know that it took million of billions of trillions of years to have evolution occur but can i get an approximate date from you guys?? How long did it really take??
It is continually happening.
Well the Universe is approximately this old…
Astronomical observations indicate that the universe is 13.73 ± 0.12 billion years old[1]. Its diameter is at least 93 billion light years, or 8.80 ×1026 metres.
As for earth
Scientific evidence indicates that the planet formed 4.54 billion years ago,[12][13][14][15] and life appeared on its surface within a billion years.
So life has been evolving on earth from approximately 3.5 billion years. Chances are you won’t see the effects of Evolution in person as it takes a very long time. 3.5 billion years and we still can’t fly.
Al-Bob, have you ever tried reading the evolution page on Wikipedia? Also, here’s some fairly easy to understand FAQs from a different website. Happy reading.
please ask in a more polite manner or else i shaln’t.
I would love to see if they have that data but i want your opinion not someone else’s. If you disagree and say it is 3 trillion yuears old (i’ve heard that before) then i’d rather you say that then just find some random number that wiki has…
So its about 3-4.5 billion years give or take a couple million.
Okay…so how long did it take for the frist DNA cell to be able to reproduce itself??
I’m wondering if there is enough time given in this article to allow for the entire world to be created.
Al-Bob - Chances are what it says on Wikipedia, I believe. Yes, it might say between X years and Y years but that doesn’t mean we won’t know the exact answer soon thanks to science. My opinion really isn’t worth much, as I’m not an expert in the field of evolution, so your best bet would be to see what the experts say, and that’s what I would accept.
I asked whether you had read it, I didn’t ask you TO read it (even though that might be a good idea.) I just thought that since you ask a lot of questions, you might find it useful (and time-saving) to just go and research yourself.
1 Para-But what if its more…i’ve seen 3 trillion years for life on earth. The science center here in Phoenix has something about 3 trillion year old fossils?? What? Well…i guess no one can really call an exact date unless you were to calculate how long it took for the first cell to come and to grow reproduction organisms (minding no errors) and then to transform into every living and dead thing on earth…boy that would take forever!!
2 Para-Okay…i just read your post wrong then…i thopught it meant more of a…“Well have you ever read Evolution!!!” Duh…
So sorry that was my problem. I just read the dates on the address and they sound very unsure of themselves…
Earth ranges from 3-4 billion but some say it could range up to 4.5 billion or 5 billion. But of cource if it went fast it could have been 900 Million years instead. Didn’t sound very sound to me…
Still-Does anybody know how long the first cell took to learn how to reproduce and find energy and grow and…sheesh how did cells live back then.
no. do you know how long it was before god decided to create the earth?
obviously longer then 2,000 years.
I believe that the oldest civilization gives us a rough draft of where the world began. There are Mesopotamian civilizations that age around 4,000 years old. Babylon is still being found all the time as well as Assyrians and old places from the time of Abraham. Did you know that one tablet of trades from an old civilization in the middle east has the name Abraham on it and a bunch of selling he does?? “Go-sell all you have and go to the land i will send you to…” That sounds correct if they correspond.
I don’t guess…i look for evidence that supports my facts.
You see Al-Bob, that’s a bit of a logical fallacy. You should be using the facts and evidence to come to a new conclusion that works for those facts and evidence and not using the evidence to support your own outdated conclusion.
why not…if evidence is always true then why should i need to change my idea if it is supported by the evidence??
Yes, I’ll agree with what you saying is true, but you have forgotton Ockham’s Razor. The simplest explanation is more often than not, the correct one.
By that, then Religion doesn’t hold up that well against Evolution.
Simplified:
Religion: A being that has ALWAYS been here got bored one day and decided to create the universe and earth.
Evolution: Some chemical reactions happened (which we still see happening today) and gradually we begon to become more intelligent.
Religion- A Superior being who created a wonderful universe full of gravity, light, warmth, sun rays, plants, animals, molecules, atoms, galaxies, etc.
Evolution-A process that tries to depict how the earth and massive universe was created. Details the “accidents” that created the exact perfect neccesities to have life. Used by Communism, Marxism, Lenninism as a religion source and always changing depending on what “experts” find out.
Well might I say you are both using fallacies.
WALL•E: You are strawmanning religion, meaning you are simplifying it to make it easier to refute. That’s a big no no.
Al-Bob: You are using Ad-Nazism it appears against Evolution. It is clear that many people (and especially Americans I find) major objections to Communism and Marxism, and by putting that unnecessary piece of information in there you are trying to undermine Evolution by equating it with the so-called evils of Communism and Marxism.
If we are going to do that we might as well point out that Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic and the holocaust was a result of Hitler getting revenge on the Jews for killing Jesus.
yes, hitler was a christian who grew up in a jewish settlement. He got revenge for making fun of him and jesus.
Isn’t it good that it’s changing? it means we are findign things out.
Truth never changes…other wise it wouldn’t have been true.
If you knew that you would have known you were saying…
Isn’t changing good? I mean we are correcting wrong conclusions?? Isn’t that good??
Sorry to talk for you but this is what you are saying to me Just IMO…
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I can’t see how Hitler kept his religion at all…unless Catholics support Evolution…LOL i mean…oh wait they have said that evolution shows a great example?? Hmmmm…oh well. I guess they couldn’t have any connection at all. LOL…
I wonder if stalin or Lennin had Catholic religion…Oh Wait…
Stalin did have Catholic mother who prayed for him. Stalin was married to a wife who wanted him to become a priest. Hmmm…looks like having the Catholic label doesn’t make you Catholic.
Maybe if you found someone from an undenominational stand point who has the same reasoning. That would make more sense.