I haven’t been on these boards that long and it was already pretty obvious where many users stand on these issues. These threads never really accomplish much so just consider it experience. You’ll come across these same arguments wherever you go so consider it good to know what they are.
Mitch - One of the reasons why I was initially hesitant to enter this thread was because I didn’t want it getting out of hand and getting personal, and people’s feelings getting hurt. Don’t feel as if you need to justify your beliefs for anyone else, or that you are being looked down on because of your beliefs - because you aren’t, not by me, anyway. I admire your courage for standing up for what you believe in, and even though it’s a scary thing to do, it gets easier with time. I hope you start to feel better about this situation soon.
This thread was initially meant to be about Creationism (of the Christian kind) and Evolution, but it’s turned into a general topic about religion as these type of threads tend to do. If this thread is to keep going, I urge people on both sides to focus on their own and others’ arguments and counter-arguments and take extra care, in such a loaded topic of conversation such as this, not to attack people on a personal level. And I’m not talking about any one particular person here, so don’t go assuming that I am.
Religion is a double-edged sword. There are truths and lies, and it brings people together, as well as seperates them. What a person believes in should not be taken into question, but the origins and foundations are what should be taken into account.
Believe can make a person do either terrible or great things, simply because they have something to hold on to. Could be anything really. And just because a person has something to hold on to that gives them strength, it isn’t wrong or should be scrutenized (ugh word). folds arms Though I’m not hear to add my opinion. Got into a fight with a friend of mine months ago about religion. chuckles In fact lied to me for my opinion saying it was a survery, though I knew it was a lie given…ahem anyway…nearly broke up what friendship we had. In the end he apologized, and I forgave him cause I’m that sort of guy heh heh. That was our choices.
I’d like to just make this little point (though I see we’re not onto this part of the topic anymore). People wonder where God came from Himself, because they can’t picture life before time and science began. God created the laws of science, therefore, God was not made by science, it was the other way around. Although I guess it’s hard for us to picture, because the world we live in now is limited by science.
Not that science is a bad thing. It’s just that we have to remember that God was a great Creator for giving us science.
Yes it is limited by what scientists say is true.
They teach us in college and in high school. They report findings to media which lift them up even higher.
If it wasn’t for science, we wouldn’t have all of these medical advances that allow us to live longer and improve the quality of our life. It’s not as simple as a “religion VS science” argument, since I bet you, Al-bob, reap the benefits of many scientists’ studying without you even knowing it.
“She said, conversing with people across the world thanks to electricity, computers, and many other wonders invented through science.”
That’s one thing that exasperates me. People picking and choosing their science like they do bible passages. Science doesn’t work that way. You either prove your hypothesis or you don’t.
Though if you take bright dot-dasher’s view, that asks the question of why do people have to be so resistant to evolution. Evolution makes no guesses to the start of life or if there is any greater power behind it.
yes i most certainly do and thank them for their achievements. The only problem is scientists who work for something like evolution. I don’t hate them i just disagree with what they say becuase they require more faith then i do.
Oh, believe me, I don’t find it surprising. Quite the contrary. In fact, I was expecting it. My point is that I was stating what was to be expected, even though I hate the consequences. I should probably look forward to conversations like these so as I’ll toughen up in the process. Heh.
A113 - Well, thanks, dude. I’m sorry I went off the ball there. (sigh)
rachel - I can’t seem to find appropriate enough words to thank you guys for understanding. I don’t want others to think that I’m coming off as “helpless” or “pitiful” just so I can gain some sympathy. (And I sincerely hope that no one views me in that light.) I was simply stating my opinion.
But, yeah. Thank you, rachel. I normally defer to other topics of conversation for the very reasons you mentioned. Trust me to jump into the fray regardless of the circumstances. (snigger)
Nexas - Oh. Heheh. I already have a blade; I’m just hesitant to use it in certain situations for various reasons. Thanks, though. (heh)
Something that defies evolution: Evolution is a slow process of animals changing over millions of years, each millions of years a small change or adaptation to help it.
But there are many creatures that have many interesting functions that help it, and needs those functions all at once. According to the theory of evolution, the creatures couldn’t have everything all at once, and it took centuries and even miliniums for it to form something else more complicated. Wait, some animals need everything all at once in order to survive, otherwise you don’t have the animal at all.
What you are using now is a product oif science.
Medicine is the product of science.
The pages and ink used in your bible are products of science.
You got any relatives over 65? If it wasn’t for science, they might not be here?
You (paleontologists) claimed that an old, dusted skull is one of a caveman, and through theories you created that which you believed to be accurate through some ‘scientific methods’ other humans believed to be accurate in proving your theories, you made your theory of evolution official?
What a joke.
It is basically a web of deception - whether directly (government conspiracies) or indirectly (human error). No human can prove anything to be true, even with hard, substantial evidence, as there might be other substantial evidence which would prove otherwise.
