General fanfiction/fanart trends you are tired of

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#1

Is there anything in any specific Pixar movie fandom in terms of fanfic/fanart that you can’t stand- but keep on seeing everywhere which almost makes you lose the will to live?

This thread is for you. :laughing:

But just as a suggestion- no mentioning of specific authors/artists or extreme hinting even at it. We don’t want specific bashings here. Plus you have to have actually seen this thing in more than ONE example for it to count.

Plus defence of a trend someone else dislikes (including mine) is also allowed. Just be clear as to WHY in your arguments defending it.

But I was just wondering if there were any which grind your teeth:

Mine are mainly the example of ‘revenge’ fanfictions I sometimes see, though it could be used for almost any fandom not just Pixar- but Pixar seems to be the one out of all my fandoms which are the biggest offenders in this regard I’m afraid, or at least the two I happen to read fanfics from.

(Granted Ninja turtles can sometimes be dicey what with the idea of ‘honour’ and all that, but that’s more of a general thing with the series sometimes too).

ANYWAY: It’s not using the idea of revenge as a plot point per SAY which irriates me (because it COULD be interesting) but the way a lot people do it- I’m sure you know the ones I’m talking about. The ones where they actually want to be taken SERIOUSLY as a storyline perhaps but rather than making a realistic use of the idea of ‘revenge’ go more down the line of :

‘Muahahaha I am the antagonist who must gain revenge upon the protaganist due to the events of the movie in the most contrived and rediculous way possible! Because I is stupid! And am evil! Dur! Watch and laugh as I become instantly kill myself/get caught/become worse off in the process! Duuuuuur!’

Quite often- these people clearly do not get to grips with this specific idea of revenge at all on the level they take it (usually trying to kill someone)- how it only would usually occur in intelligent people who think it through on an EXTREME level if they have been mentally completely broken down and feel there is nothing else to do but ‘go down fighting’ perhaps, the utter hoplessness which has to drive such an extreme action by anyone of reasonable intelligence and the potential sympathy even if repulsion at the action exists which could and should occur if the revenge doesn’t occur in the heat of the moment/DIRECTLY in the after math of events when you’re not REALLY thinking perhaps…

Okay I’m getting incredibly angsty here. Enough of that.

Anyway- my point is, the vast majority of fics dealing with the idea of revenge are not good and Pixar is the one fandom I delve into which seems to be the biggest culprit in all the ones I frequent. For the most part it’s simply a case of the anatgonist almost coming of as masocistic. Revenge COULD be an interesting plot point and area to explore- but most fics dealing with this idea are not at all.

So what are your own gripes with any specific trend in the Pixar fanart/fanfics you seem to keep running into?

#2

Oh I know what I despise - unoriginal fancharacters. They appear by the truckload and are as annoying as heck.
‘look I am pretty and beatiful I can’t die and I love the main character and he loves me too and everyone who says otherwise is mean lololol’
Every fandom has them, but I’ve seen some around DA recently…
NOTE: I do not hate all fancharacters! Just those pointless recolours and mary-sues!

And I also have an enormous dislike against this so-called ‘inflation art’ fetish some people have but about every fandom has them… sadly… it’s just plain disturbing…

Also, I admit I lol’d at your description of the evil revenge-plotting villain. 8D Dur!

#3

Glad you liked my impression. :laughing:

Ah Mary Sues… which brings me to another thing I’ll talk about later which is partially related to another peeve of mine.

Ah inflation art… it… baffles me in some respects I’ll admit. I just don’t really get it- not my cup of tea at all.

In relation to Mary Sues is also making CANON characters ‘Sues’ in some respects, perhaps the direct opposite of the stupid villain- you know you obviously probably have a favourite character but you make this person absolutely perfect and with no mistakes at all either logically or morally speaking. Like ever.

It drives me mad sometimes.

I mean I adore Sulley in some respects, but I sure as hell don’t think he’s perfect! Granted I have a bad habit of playing with his guilty personality a bit much sometimes in my writing but… ah well.

Sulley is not always the fastest on the uptake and he’s got a vindictive side all the same- but he also has a guilty personality and all that. It’s an interestin thing to go about with.

Absolutely perfect characters are BORING. Why do people want to make great canon characters filled with potential boring?

Also when people write arguments and it’s sometimes all too obvious how one-sided the writer is making it in a story for their favourite- sort of linked to the over-the-top ‘villain’ kind of thing too. I prefer arguments where either- they are both right/wrong/stupid OR perhaps yes ONE is more in the right- but even the other one has some definite good points to make all the same which would make the other person (and perhaps the reader) think. It’s more fun to write AND read for me where almost everyone has a point- or if it IS one-sided perhaps the ‘darker’ person tries and plays on the ‘lighetr’ person by trying to use their own sense of morality against them. Which can be interesting. Although -I- might be more on one-side than the other, for another person it may be different, and I prefer stories which can pull this sort of thing off sometimes- where it’s not completely black and white, just various shades of grey with perhaps yes, some simply a darker shade than others. Where even the abolute ‘monster’ perhaps had reasons for turning out that way. So perhaps even the smallest amount of pity can be felt, even if they are terrible and people do hate the character or what they are standing for at least.

Which also brings me to another thing I hate- character vendettas in fanfics. Now I don’t like Mike for M.I. either sometimes , but I’m not about to complete and utterly demonise him in fanfic either. Waternoose is the biggest bad guy- but even he can’t be completely pure and utter evil (though he’s close, scarily close). Mike rubs me up the wrong way in a lot of ways but that means I have to be careful not to make him over-the-top. He does have some good points and I kind of doubt he’d turn into some kind of wife beater of Celia or something. If someone is dislikeable enough for you in canon- then show their canon selves in your story, you don’t need to make them worse than they already are if they really are all that bad in your opinion.

Keeping complaints/bashings for a character on a forum is probably best, or in author’s notes if that.

In other words- look at the characters you like and realise their bad points. Same with characters you don’t like- try… REALLY hard to find their good points.

This can be difficult, but basically- people shouldn’t be selective over certain facts when it comes to a canon character or the universe they are in really.

For instance- Sulley is sometimes slow and has a secret strong vindictive side, Randall is sometimes immature and high-strung and was ready to kill in the movie events, Mike can’t take a joke very well and is exceedingly petty and pretty oblivious. But Sulley also is observant, has guilt and parental feelings on a high level, Randall could not have always been like that for the universe to make sense and for him to have got through training, and he doesn’t kill Boo even when ordered to, and the fact Mike made up Boo’s door for Sulley shows he’s not completely selfish. Also in relation to all their actions surrounding Boo- the circumstances dictate that humans were thought of as ANIMALS, which must also be taken into account.

Not excuses- just reasons.

Honest mistakes can sometimes happen and it can be difficult- but when people make it SO obvious who is their favourite even if you didn’t read their author’s notes/profile/something else not in the main body of the fanfic it just bugs me sometimes. Almost all characters have something good or bad to say about them. It’s interesting to show this.

#4

Mary Sues, in any type of fanfiction annoy me a lot, for reasons I dont think I have to explain.

I’m also not a fan of smut-type writing, if you get my meaning. Oh I dont mind reading an adult oriented fan fiction, but there’s a difference between mature content & just having the characters going at it constantly with vivid detail each time. That just turns me off after awhile because it shows me the author clearly has one thing on their mind and didnt give the story much of a plot beyond that. I’ve seen stories where it happens in almost every chapter and its like, do they do anything else?

#5

I don’t read much fanfiction as I’d want to, but back in '06 and '07 when I was Cars-obsessive, I read a few. One plot cliche I notice will be something along these lines:

“A mysterious stranger comes to town (usually female). She will be in bad shape, presumably after a harrowing escape. She will be fixed up by Doc, and taken care of by Sally. Lightning or Mater will probably fall in love with her, otherwise, Doc will think of her as a surrogate daughter. This stranger probably has a history, and that history will come to haunt her, whether in the form of a boyfriend or father (usually abusive). It is then up to the Radiator Springs’ residents to stand up to the bully and make RS the stranger’s new ‘home’.”

Granted, there’s little more you can play with the rural setting besides the classic ‘fish-out-of-water’ story, but I’m sure you can think better! There ARE some good ones (I remember ‘Cruising Down Love Blvd’ and ‘Keep On Truckin’ as good spins on the mysterious stranger concept), but there are few and far between.

Also, most Cars fanfic tend to have fan-made characters in the form of L&S offsprings. The kid tends to be again, female, and she will usually fight with Lightning over racing in the Piston Cup, since it’s a predominantly male ‘sport’. While it’s a good idea, it’s also been done to death before, and I’d like to see something new.

I haven’t encountered any Mary Sue characters. As of yet.

I understand the overdone ‘revenge theme’ concept. It’s not enough you have to hate someone, but to do so with a driving force. What makes you want to settle the score instead of walking it away? It has to be something drastic, something deep-seated within your psyche, that leaves you no option but to uncover the truth, fight back, get back the money, etc. Too often, it’s a simple matter of the villain who has been killed in the earlier movie ‘back from the dead’ with no other intention than to retaliate. It’s boring.

And one-dimensional characters. Is it too much to ask to give a backstory (an original one, mind you), inner motivations, purpose for being in the story. If the character doesn’t influence or add to the story, he/she is pretty much deadweight.

Another beef I have is of romantic relationships proceeding too fast. This is especially common with Bolt fanfics, in which Bolt or Mittens will accidentally kiss the former, or hug the other just that bit too long, or will confess to love, all in the first chapter. And then the author will put ‘Oh, will Bolt reveal this true feelings for Mittens?’ He just did! Real-world doesn’t work that way, hun. You gotta let it simmer, boil, entice the reader with an ‘is-it-or-is-it-not’? The rate of relationship progressions (not just in Bolt fanfics, but in others too) is inversely related to the talent of the writer. Of course, that’s not to say you lead your readers on too long, cos’ then they’ll lose interest. But you gotta tease 'em, and patiently.

And really, is too much to ask for just a friendship bond as left in the movie?

#6

On the topic of May-Sue fics…troll fics that ripoff My Immortal because they don’t realize its NOT FUNNY ANYMORE. You know, the goth main character and bad grammar? Guys, its gotten really old! Think of something else to do!

Also, when people on DA draw characters all super-cutesy. I dunno, its not my cup of tea, especially when its out-of-character for them to be like that.

Also, Draco in Leather Pantsing. Don’t know what that is? Its a TV Trope term that means when someone makes a villain out so be super attractive and not such a bad person, often simply so their self-insert Mary-Sue OC (another thing that annoys me) can end up with them. Its just annoying. I don’t care if you find the villain attractive, I find some of them attractive too, but by God, don’t turn them into a pansy just to fulfill your own fantasy.

Also, when people write smut for character that really, REALLY shouldn’t have it, if you know what I mean. I once saw a fanfiction on FF.net that had a Mickey/Minnie shower scene. I…I was a tad traumatized even though I skipped it, and it ruined what was otherwise a very sweet fanfiction.

#7

The problem also is though Rac Rules is that ‘Draco in Leatherpantsing’ is a term that gets thrown around a lot, same with ‘Mary Sue’ sometimes- when it’s not exactly always warranted. Sometimes. Often in fact. But not always. When people take any character and try to make it out as perfect- then yes, complaints are warranted- but sometimes there are things which suggest (even an antagonist), is more than they first appear.

Even the term ‘cliche’ is thrown about too much as an insult actually (more on that later).

Randall is listed as a ‘Draco in L.P’ - and when someone makes him out to be perfect, the complaints are warranted in this case. Because he is far from perfect. He’s immature, he’s showing a rapidly shortening fuse and he’s prepared to kill if he has to, even it seems not being that cut up about it. But it’s also a fact that for the rules of the universe to make sense- he could not have been hired in the mental capacity he was in the film at all among other circumstances existing- which people can relate to. This is perfectly fine. Relating to caharcters is what puts Pixar ahead of the game after all. Just because people makes out the antagonist to be more than they first appear isn’t a bad thing and sometimes can be interesting.

But making them PERFECT? (A TRUE Draco in leatherpantsing?) That’s really annoying and if your only motivation behind it is because they find them ‘hot’… um no. That’s just weird. I don’t really get the idea of finding villains ‘hot’ myself. Not my area. But I do enjoy grey anatgonists. But you must also refer flaws you know exist even if you try to bring in a lighter side more to the forefront.

But people CAN change- but it would take time to develop it- no IMMEDIATE changes and immediately showing them to be ‘good’ but have them gradually devleop into something more. Immediate changes of heart are just bizarre sometimes.

I also have a peeve specifically in relation to Syndrome- making him… suave… Syndrome is not suave. :laughing:

But then Syndrome (next to Hopper/Mr.Waternoose perhaps?) is perhaps the least redeemable of the antagonists in reality. Syndrome fans have their work cut out when it comes to him.

It’s perhaps the same with the whole ‘revenge’ thing- it’s not so much that the cliche is USED perhaps (because EVERYTHING has technically been done- there’s just a new way of telling things), but it’s just more or less how these trends/cliches are HANDLED perhaps.

For instance- making an OC doesn’t have to be a bad thing. But just like with making a CANON character perfect, you can’t make the OC perfect either regardless of your own character bias. Revenge also can be an interesting place to take fiction… but if you are really intending to write something you want people to take seriously (instead of just random stuff), you can’t do the evil ‘muahahaha- I am making no sense at all for no reason’ type of thing- instead you must explore the reason behind it.

Why are they doing this?

Randall’s own revenge stories are constantly completely and utterly stupid from the get go- because in addition to making him stupid himself, they tend to ignore the very fact- RANDALL HAS BEEN GONE FOR A YEAR (by the time Boo’s door is rebuilt when we see the chart Sulley holds)- what exactly was Randall doing in all that time? I somehow doubt he took a YEAR to come up with such a (usually stupid) plan, so what happened? Was he held aganist his will? Did he just snap? Did he get brain damage? Were his experiences that horrible? But I’ve never seen it explained AT ALL. Because honestly- you think it would take Randall over a year to get back just to do that?

I can get revenge if it’s in the heat of the moment/just in the after mathg- because that can account for stupidity. But when it comes to PLANS and having TIME to think it out… you’ve got your work cut out to make it believable and not seem stupid.

Randall, if he has some other motivation to get back to the monster world- would get back. And perhaps he might try for revenge along the way if he bumped into Sulley and Mike- but for it to be his ONLY motivation to go back. Well you’re going have to explain why! That’s a hard thing for me to swallow or believe- that that after such a time would be his only drive in life.

Another thing I hate relates specifically to Boo (most of the time anyway)- basically making her into this extremely depressed/abused teenager. Because honestly, with her excellent room and her friendly happy attitude and is very smart for her age- she does not give ANY evidence of such treatment at all. I doubt her parents beat her/starve her/live in poverty. Look at her room! Her parents in fact, must be at least upper-middle class. HIGH-upper middle class.

But seriously- I don’t get the ‘abused’ thing at all.

I suppose it could be argued (in relation to making Randall pure ‘evil’ and Boo with ‘abusive parents’- is the fact in some ways people do have SOME excuse- we don’t see Boo’s parents, we only see some small hints of Randall having any other side, it’s just a fact however- that when you sit down and think really hard about the evidence before you- it just doesn’t fit at all. It wouldn’t make any sense if it was true given what we see about how M.I. works (because Randall would never have been hired regardless of talent if he’d been like that always) or what we see of Boo either.

But one area where the ‘abused’ thing gets thrown in for which there is NO excuse is in the Incredibles- you know what I mean. Violet suddenly falls for Syndrome. Parents do not approve (well duh…)… then the borderline-abuse starts. Sometimes without the borderline.

HUH?

Look Bob and Helen are not perfect parents (after all, there is no such thing), but they LOVE their kids in the end. Sure if Violet ever decided to go for the guy (?) well, they’d obviously NOT be happy. But they’d have good reason! They’d be ultimately concerned for their daughter’s welfare and they LOVE their daughter. Bob is not going to start beating her. He is not an abuser. This example has less excuse than Boo- because we actually SEE the parents, and KNOW what they’re like.

Do they really seem that much like abusers?

#8

^That’s what us tropers like to call the Ron the Death Eater treatment. When the villain gets Draco in Leather Pantsed, the protagonist has to be brought way out of character and basically become a Complete Monster. Its another thing that annoys me.

#9

Sometimes I think TV Tropes should be taken with a grain of salt- I mean the M.I. page states that WATERNOOSE is a sympathetic character just doing it to bring energy to people.

(Oy vey).

I feel ‘Your Milage May Vary’ should be stamped on quite a few things there, if I bothered, but whatever. Still TV Tropes is a great site all in all, but it’s not perfect either.

But yes, I get your point.

Honestly though, either way you slice it, making ANY character 100% perfect or a completely evil/insane person when they’re not is a bad thing, whether they’re the protaganist OR antagonist. So I don’t really see the point in trying to seperate the two. Taken to either extreme is annoying whether a pro or antagonist is involved.

It’s just strange I guess either way. Sure, you may protray a side which can only be EXTRAPOLATED from certain things you know about how the world must function or the situations they are in, but more or less you should try to keep in-character when taking this into account. Granted, accidents do still happen after all (and even CREATORS can sometimes make their own characters OOC, it’s less likely but still possible) but sometimes people taken to a level where you think the character their using isn’t really Pixar’s at all- it’s an original character with simply the same name.*

I don’t see WHY on original character must be destroyed in order to raise one up however, that also baffles me. Must a DeathEater follow a Leatherpantsing? Nemo didn’t really have anything of the sort at all.

*Is this hypocritical? I have my own version of a grown Boo, but I more or less based it on what we saw as a kid- a friendly zany optimist, who loves to run, is fast on her feet, loves high places and to laugh and help people, yet can be pretty dang naive and can be a liar and is easily manipulated. Hard to know really what she’d be like in reality, but it was sort of almost a response to people doing the ‘abused and depressed’ version I kept seeing because I didn’t really get it. Perhaps I’m getting a big head but I like to think mine would be closer to what she may be like.

#10

This is a really, really good topic! :smiley:

A lot of my annoyances have already been listed, but I’m going to specifically narrow down one movie, because there is a trend I see within the fandom that drives me absolutely insane. It never seems to fail within Ratatouille fandom, people will write about what might happen after the movie - which isn’t a bad thing because I’ve done it myself - but almost always, Colette and Alfredo will end up living together in his apartment without marrying first. Now, this may be slightly influenced by my own moral leanings, but the fact that this is WAAAY overdone in the fandom in general should be enough to annoy anyone. Come ON. Whatever happened to the practical, beautiful idea of marriage? It’s bad enough that the romantic development already happens waaay too fast within the film itself (which TDIT mentioned already); how much more annoying that almost every single Ratatouille fanfic I’ve read puts in the overused, cliched “Alfredo owns La Ratatouille, lives in a big apartment, has the hot female chef Colette as his girlfriend and they move out and live together” crud.

Marriage itself can be sweet, I just don’t understand why it never gets used without them freakin’ living and sleeping together first. I’m really tired of reading paragraph after paragraph of Colette wondering, “Does he really love me? Am I enough for him?”, when for crying out loud, they’re living together, then five minutes later they’re in bed going at it. GEE, I wonder if he LIKES you a bit, Colette! Graaahhh, it’s annoying.

Then if they end up having a kid, they wonder how it happened. It’s a SURPRISE! Like, uhh, how? Like you had no idea that could happen? :confused: For real. Then they’ll name it some really original French name like Marie or name it after Alfredo’s mom. Puh-lease.

Wow it feels good to vent about this stuff. I think I’ll try again later. I hope I’m not the only one who has found this aspect of Ratatouille fandom quite dried out and frankly just plain annoying. :unamused:

little chef

#11

I do have one question: What exactly is a “Mary-Sue”?

#12

little_chef_eva09. I don’t go into the ratatouille fandom so I wouldn’t know, but really the probable reason is because well, Linguini himself was illegitimate, and in france, more than any european country, that happens A LOT. It’s normal. An example of ‘Truth in Television’ as it were. So why would they have a problem? Of course it could be possible to create issues with Collette in that area perhaps. (There you go! A possible conflict! Differing of opinions in that area. Could have Linguini unintentionally insulted since he is illegitimate himself). You never know. It is however pretty unlikely that they’d wait given the country they live in and they are in a modern society with no indications of religious issues. (Of course… I only saw it ONCE. So perhaps I misremember)

Really though, saving yourself before marriage isn’t a moral question (I have to pick at this I’m sorry), but either a religious, social issue or personal choice. Nothing to do with morality really in my opinion. Someone who saves themself for marriage and is on the same ‘moral level’ (if such a thing exists) in all other terms with someone else who doesn’t isn’t more moral at all.

It’s open to go either way in the end- but the before marriage thing? The more likely of the two. Of course, given your post, I somehow have the suspicion that the reason they do it ISN’T because it IS more likely to happen, but merely because they want it that way so that might be an invalid defence to make huh?

And the wangsting by Collette about Linguini does indeed sound annoying, you have my sympathsies.

That’s something I dislike sometimes too- angst for… many, many chapters… mmm. Not my thing.

See I can have angst completely in oneshots or whatever- short bittersweet things too, but in MULTI-CHAPTERS, when writing, I need humour both when I’m writing and reading sometimes, you know? Even if it’s just one character trying and failing to lighten the move with a bad joke and the failure itself can be sweet and almost funny too. SOMETHING.

Sure a story can be serious if you’re trying to go for a realistic approach- but real life also has its funny moments too anyway doesn’t it? And we all need a chuckle now and then.

A one-shot of full on angst? Sure, I can drink to that. Sometimes can be intersting.

But chapter upon chapter?

I’m afraid not.

JustSoWall-eCrazy: A Mary Sue is basically a female fan created character or sometimes even an original character, which is perfect in absolutely every way, is highly unrealistic and has no flaws.

Sometimes people can do this to their favourite CANON characters too when writing fanfic though in their own weird way (as mentioned extreme raising or bashing of a character is annoying no matter which character it is. I just can’t handle it- no not even if the character being raised to unbelievable levels is a favourite, or the character I dislike is being completely and hideously deformed. It’s okay you know for PARODY if you’re making fun of that sort of thing, but seriously? No.)

Plus the extreme negative derailment of characters (in fanfic) I don’t even like annoys me because then I feel I have to defend them and it puts me in a bad mood to have to do so. But I have the overwhelming complix to do so. Bah. Such things should be kept for board you know to discuss them and all really. As mentioned, if you feel a character is bad enough already, why bother making them seem even worse? You don’t have to, their in-character thing is enough for you to dislike so it should be enough for others.

#13

I’m not even sure this is ontopic but… I kind of glanced at adultfanfiction.net (just idol curioisty… I swear…), and I discovered something REALLY bizarre.

CARS adultfanfiction/smut. I am more than slightly horrified actually. I didn’t READ any so I can’t judge on the quality but a part of me is just… um… what? There are no words. I mean I’m still wondering though…HOW in my morbid curiosity that such a thing would even be POSSIBLE.

I mean, the Cars universe kind of bothers me since of course this is an area which meant their universe never made much sense (where do cars come from?) etc but…

NO!

NO!!!

Don’t believe me? Go to cartoons (not movies) on that site (if you’re over 18 and thus can get into it that is), under 6 through F and see for yourself. I am far too freaked out at the moment to actually READ the stuff but I think eventually I might just read it (just to see… HOW… curiosity is going to kill me one of these days like the cat.).

Or maybe I won’t read it at all. It all depends. I am actually pretty weirded out on a level I have never felt before, and I thought I’d nearly seen it all in fandoms. Clearly NOT.

It’s not like it’s only ONE fic either, but EIGHT of them, and that’s actually quite a REASONABLE number glancing at the lists of ‘number of fics’ per section in some cases. (Technically though about 4 or 5 different authors though).

I’m not sure what to think about a world which finds cars getting it on ‘hot’ (granted, only a few seem to have any reviews… and I’m not sure the ones given are even positive because a part of me simply recoiling in horror at the very idea of cars… literal CARS doing that sort of thing to even want to read what people who might be into that sort of thing are saying)

Yeah…

WHAT?

I kind of doubt I’m being hypocritical (just because I am not oppossed the idea of monsters with humans for example in Monsters Inc, but there is no section for that movie before you ask either, I just checked after I discovered ‘Cars’ out of curiosity).

I don’t even want to KNOW if there is Finding Nemo adultfanfiction though. (Pfft. They’re FISH. Come one, even with the barest basics in biological knowledge how precisely can anyone think they could write smut on that anyway? Besides that kind of thing with characters I put on level with the Lion King- as in actual animal characters is NOT something I’m into at all.)

EDIT: Darn you curiosity! There ISN’T Finding Nemo (thank goodness) but… WALL-E has a section (only one fic… but still), The Incredibles has thirteen (both under MOVIES though not cartoons like Cars). Which makes a lot more sense (The Incredibles) at least given that they’re you know, at least organic sentient beings and all, so it’s not really an issue for me at all (though I’ve yet to see what they are, if I look at all)… but WALL-E?! The love there is so… innocent and pure and we KNOW they’re not going to ‘grow up’ like humans or anything like that. I’m afraid to even click the section to read the summary. It might destroy me. <img src=“{SMILIES_PATH}/youwhaaa.gif” alt=“o_0;;” title="You

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I don’t know what to make of this exactly.

#14

Well, that is just plain disturbing. Cars can’t reproduce, no matter how much one would like them to. Oh my gosh, man. And I thought MY theories for some things were ridiculous. (not that I think perverted thoughts… oh no. D: ) xD Am I glad that I am just fourteen.

please for the love of God tell me there’s no Mario stuff on that site…

is that adultFF site the same as FF.net, but for adults? 0-o

curiosity killed the cat indeed… x-X

#15

I just checked, don’t worry there is no Mario. But I do know there’s some… bad fanart of that fandom of that persuasion somewhere on DevArt so I understand your fears somewhat.

It came after ff.net and it does seem to try and ride on its name of the original site (no I’m not giving. the address here, that’s just wrong but you can probably guess it anyway)

Its original intention possibly WAS that is was for adults. However seems to ME they are people who have never even SEEN another person before let alone touched one, and on another forum where I brought this up it was pointed out to me that most of these ‘authors’ were probably UNDER 18 and just doing it for shock value.

Well it seems they succeeded in my case. The fact that CARS smut exists at all is shocking in of itself.

14 huh? I’m 22 and I’m shocked myself. And I thought I’d seen it all in fandoms. Apparently I was dead wrong. And be thankful. You’re not missing on much at all except feeling your IQ points and will to live quietly slip away. (Exaggerating obviously, but you know what I mean).

I still can’t get over Cars for some reason. Granted I haven’t dared click even on the WALL-E section to read the summary either of that one fic.

I am really disturbed.

And you don’t want to KNOW what was in the Incredibles section.

#16

I read a lot of fanfics and brows fanart in a lot of different places online, and my favorite to observe are all Pixar based.

For starters: sexual themes in these stories. I read one that seemed interesting until one chapter in which Toy Story characters were paired up in some rather smutty situations, and I promptly decided to stop reading that one. But it’s one of those things that bugs me. The author (as someone previously stated) has only one agenda and is gonna make that clear over and over through the pointless and unimaginative fanfic/art. It just irritates me.

Numero dos: “Remember when?”. Certain Disney sequels, as much as it pains me to speak negatively of them, have gotten under my skin. When the movie doesn’t have a definite point, but is made up of several small episodes, somehow contributing to a makeshift plot. I won’t name any but we all know which ones I’m referring to. It bugs me when that slips into a fanfic as well. It’s not a huge annoyance, but one I think is also slightly unimaginative and boring.

Tres: as already stated: the villain returning in a somewhat boring and ridiculous manner for “revenge”

Cuatro: Twilight meats Pixar: this was by far the WORST I have EVER seen. Mashups of all the Pixar movies, injected with Twilight characters. I was severely disheartened at the thought. =/

Cinco: In general, I’m just not a fan of made-up characters, unless they play an absolutely [vital] part in the plot, and are [well-developed] and [unique]. When some random, half-described character appears out of nowhere, it’s really obnoxious.

“These are the things that annoy me”

but on a brighter note, I do enjoy seeing the creativity good fics/pics have to offer. :slight_smile:

#17

Uh… yeah, about that, I actually read one between Lightning and Sally about three years ago (again, during my Cars-obsessive phase). I can’t remember who wrote it, but let’s just say it was my first taste of erotic fiction in my entire life. It was respectably presented (lots of euphemisms and metaphors), but I was simultaneously fascinated and mortified that someone can come up with this.

Granted, I preferred the chaste relationships between the cars as depicted in the movie, but to take it a step further not only requires a great deal of imagination, but courage as well. What’s so different from writing about sentient inanimate objects than from say, interspecies relationships, like I’ve seen done for Bolt (unfortunately) or (I assume) Monsters Inc.? So I’m not really offended or anything, but quite amazed that people actually consider such story possibilities and then attempt them. So for that, I respect them.

While I respect your views on religion little_chef, I have to say that marriage is first and foremost a religious construct. De facto couples have been known to have long-lasting relationships, even for life. Some might point out that their absence of a civil union shows some form of commitment issue, but maybe they could’ve intentionally not have a marriage to prove otherwise. Anyway, I’m not so offended by the fact they have Colette move in with Linguini (or vice-versa). Some couples do that to have a feel for each other living in close proximity before committing to the idea of marriage. What I do, object, however, is pre-marital shenanigans. I know I said earlier that some unmarried couples truly love each other, but this can only (IMO) take place after a significant amount of time living together and getting used to each other. Like say, about 1-2 years. Anytime before that, and it just comes off as too quick and cheap.

Which is why I have a problem with rapidly developing relationships in fanfiction. Unless the characters are in an action movie (though Sandra Bullock would beg to differ) and there’s a need for a hyperreal form of relationship progression, I prefer things to be nice and slow. Love has to take its course, not a circuit. Again, I recommend ‘I’ll Meet You on Route 62’ (my favourite Cars fanfiction of all-time) as an excellent, excellent example of how to depict a realistic relationship and pace it convincingly. :wink:

Wow, this sound bad in a good way. Can you post a link? I’m very curious to read it. :stuck_out_tongue:

#18

Fact: Twilight ruins everything. :stuck_out_tongue:

Also, believe me, I am a member of DA, and haven’t yet seen anything disturbing. There’s a mature content filter and REALLY bad things usually get removed.

Uh… villain returning for revenge is not cool anymore? Oh. :blush: (I’m actually writing a fic like that. I try to make it original though.)

#19

I actually may be guilty of this, depending on how you see it. In my version, Boo (named Mary) still holds onto her monsters and memories, but years of being made fun of for it have made her a bit bitter. Her mother is not outright abusive, but she is more stuck-up and doesn’t want her so obsessed with her “imaginary friends” at fourteen. She eventually send her to a psychiatrist, mostly because she is too proud to face that her daughter has quirks. She does show a playful side with her 4-year-old cousin, though. (:

Anyway, yeah, the “abusive parents” storyline has gotten OLD, right up there with the My Immortal ripoffs.

#20

Believe me, it’s a mad world out there, and I’ve seen some really freaky stuff… :shake:

Not if you do it well. :wink: