“If” he died? His neck snapped. Most people don’t live from that. Woulden’t they give out a hint that he was still alive?
Sykes was graphic too. He was run over by a train. Ouch.
He said young children didn’t grasp the fact in their first viewings.
I did when I watched it in my childhood, but I get Wheezy’s meaning. They did it on a subtle way, with the shadow and all. Nice sequence, that one.
I like Clayton. I think he’s funny, and he had the best death.
I really don’t understand why people talk about ‘Disney deaths’ like they’re a bad thing, most of the villains have horrific deaths!
Scar was torn to pieces, Ursula had a freaking ship rammed through her, Shan Yu was rocketed into a tower full of fireworks, Maleficent was stabbed through the heart…
But yeah, Clayton’s was the most graphic. That scene with the flash of lightning showing his limp body hanging there still scares the bajeezus out of me.
Was I the only one who had seen hanging people on TV before this film when kids? 
Maybe that’s why it never scared neither me, nor my sister, nor my younger sister, who was even littler than us.
Maybe the it has to do with the censors here.
How so?
Censors didn’t edit the hanging shadow shot in your country.
What do you mean by seeing hanging people on TV? Do you mean a movie/show or the actual government executing people publicly? 
I’m sure I’ve seen people hanged in films before, or at least implied as such, but something about the way Clayton’s shadow was shown and nothing else—and also the fact that he did it to himself—was and is still so disturbing to me.
What I mean is show an actual body. I’m guessing your talking about on mainly more mature programs because hanging on a kids program is usually always off screen. On a more mature movie, yes, they do show it. But if they showed the body of a hang person on a kids program, there will be some mad parents.
I’m pretty sure I saw a lot of films featuring actual bodies hanging when I was a kid, and they weren’t rated above my age.
I think they still come out. The Pirates of the Caribbean series comes to my mind.
Well I don’t remember any. I didn’t see Pirates as a kid.
I think the big shock at actually seeing Clayton’s shadow hanging there was that during those few seconds where he falls and the camera cuts away, it seems like he’d have one of those ‘implied deaths’ where it doesn’t actually show him dead.
Tarzan drops to the ground and everything seems over until the big flash of lightning and the absolutely terrifying image of Clayton’s body softly waving in the breeze.
^ Yeah, I think it’s that as well. Often Disney will just imply things or directly show us the villain’s fate, but this was sort of a mix between the two. I think Clayton’s death is probably my favorite. The composition was handled really well.
They guy from Aristocats, the most inept man in any Disney movie.
Haha we were just talking about Edgar earlier.
I have to say, Ratcliffe(he was just kind of there. Not really even that evil, just greedy), Shan Yu(what did he want, anyway? He was freaky looking though lol), the producer guy from Bolt(if he even is a villain, I wasn’t sure), Kron from Dinosaur(whole movie is pretty bad, actually), Alameda Slim from Home on the Range(he gets some points for having the only good scene), Madame Medusa from the Rescuers, Aunt Sarah from Lady and the Tramp(probably not a villain, but I hate her! She’s irritating), and all the ones on Robin Hood. The worst of all is the wildebeest on The Wild. 
Goob is probably not that great, but I think he’s funny so I like him anyway. Same with Clayton.
Haha we were just talking about Edgar earlier.
What was the concensus?
I have to say, Ratcliffe(he was just kind of there. Not really even that evil, just greedy)
I think he’s terrifying because he’s very real.
Shan Yu(what did he want, anyway?
He hated humans. We can safely assume that it has something to do with them encrouching on tiger turf or killing tigers. (I haven’t read the original book in years
Alameda Slim from Home on the Range
Agreed, one of the few good points of that film was Alameda
We agreed Edgar is pretty much a blundering idiot. I agree, Ratcliffe is like a lot of real people. But to me, a lot of villains are just greedy. It gets old to me. Shan Yu, from Mulan, not Shere Khan from Jungle Book. I assume that’s what you meant. I find Shan Yu very boring and honestly, I think he was written in just to have a physical threat. Shere Khan, however, has an awesome voice, and is very scary. 
Maybe because greediness (over most things) is among the most likely things to make you an evil person.
That makes sense. How many people do you know who really want to dominate the Earth or exterminate an entire race?
Me, a lot, but I understand it’s not the case for most people.