The idea of Buzz being reset twice seems to make sense. I didn’t think too much before how angry Buzz looked when Woody and the others were pinning him down, because he was probably already turned bad and his friends had to resort to desperate measures by resetting him. It could be possible that [spoil]the gang of toys gets to Buzz after his crash and that’s how they’re able to easily manipulate him.[/spoil] My one concern is that Buzz eventually remembers who he is and doesn’t stay in deluded Spanish mode.
[spoil]In the other versions of the trailer, the evil gang of toys tease Ken for even thinking about recruiting some of andy’s toys, calling him soft… maybe this all has to do with Ken’s love for Barbie and that’s why he does not want the toys to go, since barbie still cares about her original friends, hence the part where she slaps Ken because it is probably revealed that he’s up to no good [/spoil]
Yep, I remember I posted the exact same theory back in December in the Spanish Buzz forum. It totally makes sense too because there’s really no other reason why Woody and the other would need or want to reset Buzz unless they had no other choice. [spoil]And we know he has to be reset following his alliance with Lotso because he’s way too hispanically deluded to be of much help. [/spoil]
Also, I believe we are correct in assumption because I remember that the reason why my post got deleted was because Lee Unkrich personally contacted Pixar Planet asking them to remove my “spoiler”.
As for the Spanish Dub, Buzz is going to be speaking French. Go fig.
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Reminds me of on the Toy Story 2 DVD when they said that they had to use a background of a globe with fireworks for the dubs of Buzz’s American flag speech.
I assumed that it was the office area of the Daycare, though I could be wrong.
That seems to make perfect sense to me!
When you think about it, there is no way that Buzz would turn on his family with some sweet talk. Chances are: [spoil] They caught him when he was spying on them. Then they tried to talk to him about their plans, once he refused, they must’ve ganged up on him and reset him. [/spoil]
In one of the other versions of the trailer it looks like [spoil]Buzz attacks everyone and he looks angry.[/spoil] Also there is no way that he could have done anything bad if he was in spanish. The most that happened to him was he was back to his “old self” and was extremely flirty with Jessie.
Now if we are all right about this then the only question is, How does he change back to his normal self?
I don’t know. In Spanish mode Buzz seems to act like he’s a real space ranger again, and in the 1st film it took a lot for him to realize that he wasn’t (in fact, one of the special things about Buzz in the last two films was the growth of his character after accepting that he’s a toy). Once you undo all that, how do you fix it?
Another thing I noticed
[spoil]The scene with Slinky hanging in the air and Hamm saying “We’ll never make it!” This scene you see the gang running around what looks to be junk. This is probably our first look at the rumored “Garbage dump” scene"[/spoil]
Mr. Unkrich just confirmed on Twitter that he voices the Jack in the Box. twitter.com/leeunkrich/status/8993849275
Well, no doubt about it, that was an amazing trailer I just watched - so, so, so much to love!
Having said that, there are a couple of things bothering me about it, and I’m actually surprised they haven’t been mentioned already. The “nice ascot” line was a bit of a shock to me, and I’ve been going back and forth over whether or not it is acceptable. I think the case could be made either way, but it’s definitely pushing it for me.
The other one - and this one bugs me even more - is the “Lincoln Log” gag. Pretty crass, lowbrow stuff for Pixar, and I’m pretty put off by it. Of course, there’s nothing explicitly said, but the implication of it is really kind of disgusting, isn’t it?
Just me?
I guess one other thing I’m wondering about is the apparent ability of Mrs. Potato Head to “see” into Andy’s room (where her other eye was apparently lost). I’ll withhold judgment until I see it in context, but I’m not sure how well this is going to play in the story.
Sure, it was established in “Toy Story 2” that Mr. Potato Head could see things that his eyes were pointed towards when they were detached from his head, but it wasn’t something that happened suddenly; he just saw …well, whatever his eyes were pointed towards at the time, and he had no choice in the matter. The fact that Mrs. Potato Head has lived without seeing into Andy’s room for a long period of time before just “seeing” it now doesn’t make much sense to me. It’s completely out of no where. Why is she “seeing” Andy’s room now, but she didn’t for all this time before that?
But I’ll wait to make any final judgments on the matter.
Hate to be the lone voice of dissent, but I think it’s important to celebrate the trailers triumphs and discuss its possible shortcomings.
Maybe her eye was pointed in a direction where she could not see and then stuff was moved around and she could suddenly see.
A definite possibility.
Yeah, I’m sure they’ll have some explanation in the movie - it certainly won’t happen out of no where. I just hope it’s a good explanation.
Sort of. Well, if you are familiar with PIXAR’s other films you’ll know that they like to mix high brow and low brow humor together.
Cases in point:
- In Toy Story Mr. Potato Head removes his mouth and uses it to kiss his ass when Slinky Dog was defending Woody.
- In A Bug’s Life one of the waiters asks “Who ordered the Poo-Poo platter?” with a dozen insects swarming over.
- In Monsters Inc. even though the Abominable Snowman’s “sno-cones” are lemon flavored, you get the joke. "Let me just go outside and make some more.
- In Ratatouille, Linguini says that he has a “…tiny, little…” and Collette takes a split-second glance downwards.
- In UP Russel asks Carl Frederickson if he’s “supposed to dig the hole before or after…” and later shouts “It’s Before!” This is about as low brow humor as one can get.
My point while PIXAR is a very sophisticated animation company, they are thankfully not above doing low brow humor as well (just as long as it’s in small doses). As for the Ascot joke, PIXAR’s films are chock full of double entendres and parental bonus so it’s not like it’s anything new.
Sure, double entendres are nothing new. “Nice ascot” just seems so much more blatant than past fare.
Ditto the “Lincoln log” reference. Just to answer one of the examples you provided - the bit with Mr. Potato Head in ‘1’ was pretty subtle, and seems to have flown over many people’s heads. Usually when it’s mentioned on a message board somewhere, someone inevitably posts, “Oh wow, I never noticed that before!”
There’s something a little more “in your face” about the gags in question here. I’m not a prude, I swear. I don’t mind that kind of humor at all, in small doses (and admittedly find both jokes kinda funny) - but I definitely don’t want to see Pixar go too far.
Well, sure. No one here wants PIXAR to cross the line regarding sexual innuendos, low brow humor or double entendres (although I am positive that newt will be filled with these). Otherwise they’ll become no different than any other animation company’s humor (coughDREAMWORKS). But, you know, it is fun in small doses. Sort of a surprise kind of joke that makes the audience say “Did they just do that in a Disney film?”
By the way, since no one has discussed this yet “Why is Lotso the villain of Toy Story?” What are do you guys think are his motives for being the antagonist? And also, how is he the antagonist? [spoil]Does he try to prevent them from leaving- if so why? What does he have to gain?[/spoil]
I can’t agree more with that Pixar Builder 
It’s the unexpectancy/timing of where they place that kind of humor that makes it work. 
I’m really not sure yet what Lotso’s motives could be. I’m even more intrigued by Ken’s “Any keepers?” line about the new toys and how they’re planning to use Buzz for something. Even though not all the toys there are bad, it’s clear that there’s something crooked going on in the daycare that I still can’t figure out. [spoil]I wonder if it’s some kind of plot where only the best toys stay and they try to eliminate the others, which I believe the doll was trying to do to Mr. Potato Head by burying him in the sandbox.[/spoil]
And I don’t know if you’ve heard yet, but they’re saying that Newt has been canceled.
I always got the feeling that they were running some underground scourge of the Daycare center. Popularity status? Leadership? [spoil]Whatever it is, I can definitely understand why they would want to get rid of Mr. Potato Head. Out of all the toys, he’s the most opinionated, as well as the one that would probably cause the most commotion about their group, which is why the needed him to be forced into the sandbox.[/spoil]
I know. It’s horrible that newt might be cancelled, but if it’s like any of PIXAR’s previous films the company will fight tooth and nail to keep it alive.
Ive already mentioned my theory in my epic long post, but I can understand if it got lost in the shuffle. what I said before was I think his thinking is[spoil] kids love love new toys. so he needs new toys to be the one to get abused by the kids. he’s lived a long life probably damaged his leg or something (hince the cane) so he’s at a point where he just cant take it anymore. he doesnt want to escape pers’e, just wants to be ignored by the kids. the rough ones at least. My main source for this theory comes from his line “They just looove new toys now dont they?”[/spoil]
As for the whole pushing the limits thing, I kinda agree about the ascot one (and didn’t one of the scooby doo movies use a similar line? ), but the Lincoln log line is fine. Now, if Ken were to say something about having a Lincoln log just for Barbie, then we’d have a problem. But Ham implying that there was poop in the sandbox is fine, and probably not unrealistic either. These are kids we’re talking about. they can be disgusting, and its a reality the toys will be discovering pretty quick. Not saying they need to show something like that, but implying it is perfectly okay.
But back to the ascot thing, it will no doubt get a laugh from the adults. kids on the other hand, if they don’t get it, I don’t think they’ll even know what an ascot is. heck, my own parents didn’t when I used the word once. They thought it was something inappropriate, and I wasn’t even using it as a pun or anything. which is one reason I think removing it might be for the best. its a relatively unknown article of clothing already isn’t it?
That could be possible and would make a lot of sense, since he is supposedly the most popular toy in the Daycare. [spoil]Plus it would give a whole new meaning to his line “You’ve got a play date… with denstiny[/spoil]!”. My only question is, if this is true, why doesn’t Lotso have any noticeable seams, rips or obvious damages? Even if he was fixed, there would still be some small stitches from where he was repaired. He looks like a perfectly healthy teddy bear from the trailer so far.