Oscar: Best Animated Feature

So it hasn’t actually been announced yet? It’s just a rumour?

Well, it would be awesome if it was nominated for Best Picture, and if it is nominated for BP then it would automatically win BAP, right?

No, they won’t even conduct a firrst round of voting until January so we have a ways to go.

Well, actually no. 2004 is a good example. As much as I hate to bring him up I will mention Michael Moore here. In 2004 he made a huge push to get his film nominated for Best Picture and spent all of his Oscar Buzz advertising on it. He figured it was a shoo-in for Best Documentary anyways. Instead, what happened was the Accademy ignored his pleas for Best Picture and since he didn’t shoot for Best Documentary, he ended up with neither - not even nominations.

The Incredibles on the other hand (also 2004) had a better strategy. Since they did have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting a Best Picture nom, they did push for it. I own the advertisemnets to prove it. But they also put some money into the BAF advertisements, as well as original screenplay and score and the likes. Now, we’ll never know if they had pushed all out if it would’ve gotten the Best Picture nod, but we do know even with advertising it STILL got shafted in score. Imagine what we could’ve lost without the ads, screenplay, one or both sound nods, maybe even the BAF category itself. And while I think we’d all have loved to see The Incredibles nom’ed for Best Picture, the risk of being shafte on all levels just wasn’t worth even that chance.

The Academy can be very fickle.

Maybe we should just hope for a Best Animated Picture win. I would be incredibly stoked with that, and if it gets nominated for anything else that’s a bonus.

Ah, yes, the lovely political Best Picture debate. As much as I love Ratatouille, I’m 99.99% sure that Ratatouille will not get nominated for best picture, since it is (1) animated and (2) a comedy. I posted the last article because it’s nice to know that a major Oscar buzz blog is posting how much Ratatouille deserves to get the nod, even though it won’t.

Once again, my knack for jumping to conclusions over-runs me… :unamused:

Hehe… same here :slight_smile:

In regards to competition with the Best Animated Feature award, well, Shrek The Third’s title says it all- it’s the third Shrek film, and it wasn’t even that good. Surely creating an entirely new film, with an original storyline and all original characters merits an award more than a film that re-used the same old characters and didn’t even bother to pair them with a decent storyline?

And as for Ratatouille winning Best Picture, well, I agree with anyone else who has said that as its an animated film, its chances are automatically a lot smaller. It’s a shame, but the Best Animated Feature award really does seem to detract an animated film from being able to get the Best Picture award.

They should have an award/category for “Best Film Title”. :stuck_out_tongue:

I wonder how many terrific voice acting performances have been overlooked by the Academy.Maybe it’s time to campaign for a new category: Best Voice Acting Performance. Anyway I’ve read on the Academy website that sometimes the Board of Governors can decide to give a special award…
I also hope that the wonderful camera work by Sharon Calahan and Robert Anderson will be rewarded with at least a nomination since there are no rules against nominating a CGI movie in the best Cinematography category. There are no limiting rules also in the Art Direction and Costume Design departments, only an unreasonable bias against CGI animated movies!
Saluti
Claudio ;-o

Amen. Cinematography such as that deserves an award for its oustanding achievement in camera work. The meticulously articulated camera angles during the kitchen sequences, in particular, are drop-dead magnificent…

Yes!

Now here I agree whole-heartedly!

Going back to the other Bird film, The Incredibles for a moment. I don’t think people appreciate exactly how well this thing did at the Oscars which would by default show how well Brad can do at the Oscars.

When we talk about animated movies at the Oscars everyone hails Beauty and the Beast for 6 nominations and 2 wins but mostly because it has the Best Picture nomination. Looking aside from that, The Incredibles actually performed as well if not better when you consider it has 2 wins in 4 nominations and what those wins and nominations were for. Beauty and the Beast had 3 nominations in the same category (Best Song) and both of it’s wins were in the music categories which really says nothing about the film itself. The Incredibles was nominated in 4 categories tying Beauty and the Beast and Finding Nemo for most categories nominated in by an Animated Film. If you drop BOTH the Best Animated Feature Categoty and both Music categories then The Incredibles actually becomes the most nominated film with 3 ahead of both Beauty and the Beast and Finding Nemo which each have two. Something else that a lot of people tend to forget is that The Incredibles is also the ONLY ANIMATED FILM EVER to WIN an OSCAR in a COMPETITIVE CATEGORY that is NOT for MUSIC or ANIMATION. It’s win for Sound Editing was a first ever for animation and Finding Nemo is the only film that had even been nominated in the category before. It was also nominated for Best Screenplay (only the third time ever for an animation, and exclusive to Pixar films Toy Story and Finding Nemo besides) and the nomination for Sound Mixing was only the second ever for an animated film - first going to Beauty and the Beast. All points aside though it won two competitive Oscars tying it with any other animated movie for most wins no matter how you slice it. Now add in the fact that the film was snubbed in score (consistently rated the years biggest snub) and Best Picture (also rated as a big snub) you can’t deny that Brad has a history of performing well at the Oscars and I see no reason for that to change with Ratatouille.

Hmm. How interesting… Sounds as if Ratatouille has a better chance of trapping more rewards in the collander than I thought.

Heh – yeah, I distinctly remember this on that one night at the Oscars. I believe that my dad was quite surprised, albeit pleased, as was I.

Yeah. The first time I saw the name Ratatouille, I couldn’t get over how clever it was.

I would really hate it if “Surf’s Up” won for Best Animated Feature this year .

How many times is the Academy going to just " hand over " the award to movie just for being about penguins ? And how long with this perpetuate the milking of penguin cartoons if they do ?

This has already happened twice, with “Happy Feet” and " March of the Penguins."

I believe they won those awards because those movies were well made and were prime examples of what the categories called for. Just because they were both penguin movies had nothing to do with anything. Consider the fact that movies involving humans win every year.
And Happy Feet won because the story was a human tale just as Cars was a human tale. Mumble, Lightening and all the others in the casts felt human emotions. They just weren’t human shaped. Practically all anthropomorphic movies are as such. Ambition, love, hope, and despair are all human emotions. It doesn’t matter who displays them as long as the message gets across.
There is no penguin category in the academy awards.

I think the issue with Happy Feet generally is less about the fact that it’s a penguin film, and more about the fact that a large portion of the reason it won is because it pushes the whole environmental side of things a lot more. Happy Feet could’ve been a film about birds, or about whales or something, and it still would’ve won because of the message it was putting across.

lizardgirl - not only that but the message was forced - very forced. It actually drug the movie on making it much larger than it needed to be and ruining the flow. And of course there’s the whole motion capture issue too.

Yes Dash I really didn’t like the forced message

Okay, so here’s a list of films I think will be nominated (usually there are 3-5, so I picked 5):

Ratatouille (of course)
Meet the Robinsons
Surf’s Up
Bee Movie
The Simpsons Movie

Well, for my list, I think I would take out bee movie and maybe Meet the Robinsons. Meet The Robinsons was a movie I totally loved, but I don’t think it has a chance.