The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Yep. The gargoyles referenced many future things (gambling, barbershops) in that song that hadn’t even happened yet. Just outright rediculous.

Did they ever say why Frollo hate Gypsies?

I believe in a way Frollo did imply it when he discussed it with Phoebus- and he hated them before Esmeralda err… ‘sent her flame’ . In the end it was about control it seemed to me as he talked about them swaying the publics minds if I remember correctly. Frollo in both movie and book is an incredibly religious man, as well as powerful. Religion, today, but even more so back then, has a lot of emotion and power attached to it by society, some of these emotions can be euphoric or can be laced in deep fear. And of course, since he WAS religious he also believed in the higher power as it were, and that he was favoured. All the same in a way Frollo felt the gypsies swayed the hearts of the ‘weak’ crowd far too well- away from the church’s authority… and his. He also does later literally believe they’re involved in witchcraft- and back then that was dangerous to be accused of. To be honest though the reasons believed witches were initially tortured and killed wasn’t really down to fear of magic (though the public may have had this to sweeten the deal, and that fear took over) but down to the idea of heresy initially. They often had a different religion or at least beliefs the innocent women who helped people with herbs, and the church wouldn’t stand for that. In a way there was this idea too that if you weren’t christian or with the church you were with the devil. And Esmerelda it seems isn’t christian, she’s agnostic maybe with thoughts that christianity might be true- so it could be said in the movie, generally speaking, gyspies weren’t really christian for the most part either.

So in a way Hunchback is deep because witchcraft was seen as a challenge against christianity’s authority- and of Frollo’s in the story, as were the Gypsies, who swayed the peoples minds with laughter and entertainment, while Frollo preferred to do so with fear. Basically both have power to make people do things. And Frollo therefore saw them as a threat to his influence. Of course in his own head he believed himself to know better too, and to be closer to God and all that. He literally thinks he knows best and can do no wrong and that the public are weak and too easily swayed. So it’s ‘for the best’ in his eyes, that the threat and possible cause to the publics eventual ‘eternal damnation’ is removed. Permanently. Granted his ‘feelings’ for a certain girl muddy things even further. And she DIRECTLY called Frollo out for Quasi so he had to in his own eyes, “put her in her place” (or what he considered ‘her place’ in any case) and maybe even kill her to keep his power.

I could see that. The thing is Frollo see’s her has the bad person while he himself in the bad person.

Also in the book, I read somewhere that Frollo cares for Quasi more.

^^By “cares for Quasi more” do you mean Frollo cares more about him than he does about the other gypsies, or Frollo generally cares more about Quasimodo in the book than the film?

I think it’s realistic that Frollo would truly not want to see Quasimodo hurt by going out in public. But at the same time, the whole need for power/not wanting his deformed charge to embarrass him thing would still be the dominant factor. I don’t see any version of Frollo caring for anyone more than himself, although I haven’t read the book. Book Frollo might care about Quasimodo to a point, but when it comes down to it, I think Frollo himself will always be #1. Like Mother Gothel and Rapunzel.

He does care For Quasi a little more in the book.

YES. I hate the gargoyles; worst part of the movie.

I do to, but at least they were there for a reason.

I cant say I was ever into this one. However, I havent seen it since it came out and I was only in 4th grade the time so maybe then I was too young to appreciate it. I just thought it was too dark a story for me. I suppose I’d be willing to give it another chance though, should the opportunity arise

I think the gargoyles were for kids, their were the comedic characters of the movie.

Yes, I understand why they were there. I just still wish they weren’t. :frowning:

I got the book for Christmas. I’l’ let you know how it is.

I wish they weren’t there either. I mean, the film could of told a nice serious story if they weren’t involved.

Think Disney will make another film as dark as this?

Heck no. Especially with the kid friendly image Disney has now-a-days.

I’m still surprised they talk about God and the devil on it.

Really? I don’t remember any Disney programming in the last couple of years mentioning anything among the lines of that.

No, the movie, not the new stuff. Disney will bearly touch religion today.

Oh. I thought you were talking about them putting it in the modern day stuff.

That was 1997. Ev
en in Boy Meets World, Eric prays to God in this clip from @“13 and a little onwards”

youtube.com/watch?v=bbdicMsE … re=related