Why does everyone hate this movie?

Everything is there for a reason. It must have a reason. They don’t have to explain anything. UP was in the human world. According to physics, simple balloons wouldn’t be able to lift a house. Especially with the amount he used. You would need a whole lot more.

I don’t even think most of the die hard Cars fans have even thought about that tractor thing. Mostly because none of the fans really care that much about how it doesn’t make sense.

As for you thinking monsters evolved, evolution takes breeding and there’s nothing to breed with.

As for them being pure metal machines, well I found a picture that’s pretty disturbing that I’ll show you. It’s a drawing. Highlight the spoiler tag, copy and paste the link and go to it. I did not draw this. I have no clue who did but as disturbing as it is, even for me lol, it shows some of the biological systems for humans in a car. Maybe that’s what it’s like in there…who knows. Why do you think they don’t show them opening their doors? 8D No but really, it’s weird. You can look if you want but yeah…it’s just human insides in a car. Interesting sort of…but…just…no…lol even I’m on a no with this one. xD

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^^^ The picture doesn’t even make sense if you follow the organs. xD

… is it weird I find that drawing kind of cool? LOL.

It’s just really how my mind works, I know no story is perfect but things like that just hamper my emersion. I understand they don’t hamper EVERYONES, like I said I like the character arc among other things, it’s just kind of a shame for me personally, though honestly in Up I didn’t think on the balloons, what I didn’t like was when the dogs staged complicated aerial attacks… completely threw me out of it.

A strange drawing, but I wasn’t really grossed out (my parents are doctors… LOL). But yeah some of it doesn’t fit…

(As for Monsters Inc I hear they did a weird thing where Monsters are from OUR world, perhaps an offshoot of us even… weird explanation is weird, but I kind of like it. Our ancestors after all were once very small mammals, we have some strange sources in our past! The Monsters Inc place is weird in the sense it does have SOME other animals if sushi is there among other things.)

Edit: Though it can’t be denied it has SOME bad stuff in that area, like that Blob monster who went through the vents.

Apparently they also try the fantasy route of ‘you are what you eat’ with monsters too in the extras. Hairier versions of us which ate weird creatures and took on the appareances of what they ate.

(So… Sulley’s ancestors ate a bear? Randall’s ate Lizards? … What the heck did Mike’s eat?! Of course I guess certain traits eventually take priority and weird mutations could occur which somehow became fixed. Monsters explanations are bizarre, a mix of the biological and fantastical.)

Edit Edit: In terms of Cars… maybe it’s some weird future of our world unexplained? All the humans died off and somehow Cars gained sentience? Or perhaps they really ARE biological in some form… mmmm.

I actually agree completely with mentalguru. I like cars, but one reason it feels so, out of place as a pixar movie is because of it’s complete lack of reality.

*Toy Story series-takes place in the real world, with toys being made, then brought to life.

*A Bug’s Life-takes place in the real world, narrates the story of what these certain bug’s lives are like.

*Monster’s Inc.-Monsters live in thier own world, and visit the real world through the doors.

*Finding Nemo-takes place in the real world, just about the story of certain fish

*The Incredible-takes place in the real world, shows the lives of superheroes living secretly with us

*Ratatouille-takes place in the real world, about the lives of rats and stuff

*Wall-e-takes place 800 years into the future of the real world

*Up-takes place in the real world

Now left is Cars, which is hard to decide what it is. While all the films have a certain disbelief in it, Cars is comletely hard to believe.

Does Cars take place in a world where every single animal turned into some sort of viecle? But that can’t be right, because it showed some dates like 1952, 1953

Is Cars perhaps some alternate dimension, or something? That leads to the question, how did they come to be? All the Pixar movies have characters that are either made, or are real, biological creatures. What is cars? Are they made on a machine and given a personality? Or they living things, like that gross picture shows?

I like that drawing. Creepy, but enlightening.

It’s a movie. Once again.

A movie.

None of this matters.

You people break it down to a science to prove how it’s not believable, may I remind you it’s fiction so it doesn’t have to be, and it’s really amusing to see how much thought you put into it.

I agree the picture is gross, as I’ve said, no need to repeat that, but that’s what you look like inside too.

I like that drawing, but I agree that it is crepy from a certain view. I agree, though, fictional movies don’t need to be reaistic to be enjoyable.

Bottom line, our favorite movie gets a sequel.

That’s all I gotta say.

KA-CHOW.

I was pessimistic about Cars 2, but with John at the wheel, it’s doomed to be amazing!! :smiley: I’m actually excited. :slight_smile:

Okay, I was just skimming through this discussion between Jessie and mentalguru, and I’m gonna put in my input.

I get what mentalguru is saying that the movie being in a world that doesn’t always seem to make sense can detract from the viewing experience if you’re that kind of person. Most Cars fans aren’t though. Myself included. That’s because the plot is so enjoyable, the world itself is the last thing I think about. But when I’m not watching the film, that’s when things really get fun!

See, I believe that’s one of the things I love about Cars, is that you can take time and sit down and think about how their world works. Is there some sort of factory somewhere that just mass-produces all these cars? Do the cars have some sort of reproductive systems? Is their world actually our world overrun by mutated cars? O_O (There’s this new fanfic I’m reading over at fanfiction.net that’s exploring a little concept in which Doc says humans used to control the cars, just like we drive cars now . . . ) It’s something in which it’s fun to just get lost in your mind for hours and think about how their world works. Think about the possibilities to them all. Especially when you’ve got someone like me, a dedicated writer. Sure Cars fanfiction hasn’t been coming to me like it used to, but it doesn’t mean I stop thinking about these things. Sure, like Jessie says, it’s just a movie, and we don’t absolutely need to know how it all works, but it’s fun to be able to use your imagination and just think about it.

Based on what I’ve seen people are either 1)looking for something to complain about 2)not realizing the diffrence between non-fiction and Fiction.

Why can people not take Cars for what it’s worth?Yeah it’s diffrent,yeah I think they could have improved with the comic relief,and Lightning and Sally’s love story,but you know what…It is what it is.I simply believe it’s the popular thing to not like Cars,shakes head.It’s sad really,and pointless… :roll: :-\

I sort of agree with both sides on this one, though I’m leaning more towards mentalguru’s points. Every Pixar movie is a stretch of the imagination, and what’s great about them is that they can make that sort of thing believable, they can suck you into a whole new world and it isn’t until the movie has finished that you realise just how into the whole thing you were. It’s a great experience.

I don’t think anyone can deny that Cars is an extra stretch of the imagination, more so than Pixar’s other films. I don’t think this is a bad thing, but for some people it can be offputting. haijessie, you’re right that it’s just a movie, and because of the clearly fantastical elements it’s obvious that Pixar wasn’t trying to make it wholly believable. But when Pixar creates a world, there has to be some rules otherwise the cars could start flying and then they could turn into giraffes and then they could explode and then it would be the end. And we couldn’t question it because “it’s just a film”. If you see my point. :laughing:

So because Cars is an extra stretch of the imagination, it’s reasonable for some people to want to try and figure out how the world works- especially as doing that is pretty fun! Breaking it down to a science is an interesting thing, and that’s where there’s a positive to Pixar having created the strange world that Cars is set in- we can analyse it and think of answers to questions that wouldn’t be asked about the other movies.

CarsLuver, I don’t think anyone here has said that they dislike the movie because other people dislike it. It appears to me that those who do dislike the movie because of how much of a stretch of the imagination it is have thought this out in a reasonable way, and it’s just not their cup of tea.

And this is another one of the great things about Cars- it sparks fascinating conversations like this!

Yeah, that’s more or less it for me lizardgirl. Cars has some great things about it, but what’s ultimately important for me when getting into the film is that I’m able to suspend my disbelief so I can fully emerse myself in it. It’s not really about being relaistic. I don’t believe in magic in real life, but I can suspend that disbelief usually for the sake of a story, but Cars is unusual as in that it is very difficult for me to make that leap. And no, it’s not because it’s ‘popular’ to hate cars. And I don’t even really HATE it, it’s simply difficult for me to emmerse myself, which is a shame, because the story at its heart and the main character arc is good and filled with good ideas.

It’s just the setting which really throws me at times. But perhaps, just perhaps there are ways it can work it seems from just a little of the conversation here.

All worlds really require rules to make them work, or as lizardgirl points out, anything goes and the ability to throw a person out of the movie or to prevent them from emersing themselves fully in it in my case is a real issue. Or at least it does for some, and I’m one of those people. Having a world that you can believe in is an interesting thing for me, because I love world exploration,and most of the fandoms I’m in do love the idea and doing that as well, because once I care about the characters, I tend to care about the world they live in- how it affects them, how it works etc.

I’ve also heard people say it’s because the world isn’t ours or even connected to ours in some way in Monsters Incs case. But honestly you could say the same about the Incredibles. We don’t have super heroes after all! But then again, they’re humans. So a part of me is skeptical about that idea of why Cars is unpopular. So a part of it wonders if it’s because like me, they have had trouble emersing themselves and believing in that world. Which can mean that you can be less likely to be able to completely enjoy the story.

Of course there is always a level of disbelief, but there are certain limits to it as well. For instance, for someone they may have NO trouble with the fact dogs could stage complicated aerial attacks in Up and it didn’t throw them out of the movie. I however did and it did throw me out of the story if you will, and preventing me for that time to ‘believe’ in the story as it were. I could handle the things established before- they were simply dogs who were able to talk, but they had the same mentality (going after squirrels, easily distracted, playful and very dog/pack like behaviour… except they talk), and sure I could buy someone training dogs to be able to carry trays etc. But not complicated aerial attacks. Just… no. It seems like mentally they are STILL dogs, they simply are able to talk with collars. Plus, it raises questions as to why they weren’t used in helping the bird hunt, like some dogs on the ground and some in the air and perhaps some way they could communicate…

But Cars had trouble making me believe in it at all, which is a shame.

Because Cars like I said has a great main character arc IMO at it’s core, it’s just a shame I seem to have a bit more trouble believing that world could exist.

But hey maybe it CAN be made believeable to me, and perhaps the sequel might even help in that area. Who knows? The tractors might still remain a bother, but perhaps they could become the mere blip on the record of this world’s believability when the sequel rolls around and we possibly see more about it.

(I mean I’m going to watch it after all. Probably with said cousin’s son).

Thank you, mentalguru, for finally putting into eloquent and accurate words what I’ve been struggling to say about this for a long time.

You couldn’t have said my thoughts on this matter more precisely. :slight_smile:

little chef

Jl liked cars so much, he made a film about it. He’s also making a sequel and has Cars Toons, but it didn’t get a good rating similar to the other Pixar films, in fact, the rating may of been similar to dreamworks ratings. All other Pixar flms were 90 something or even 100. Despite this, Cars is having a sequel made and even has it’s own tv series, while most other pixar films don’t. I myself am not a big fan of the movie, but the toons are okay.

I don’t love Cars. When I saw it in theaters in the summer of '06 I thought it was great just because it was a Pixar film. I then realized that it really isn’t the best Pixar movie, although I haven’t seen it since then. It is a bit overrated; they produce soo much merchandise for it, but it is very well-loved to some people and I can understand that. The only pixar movie that I really don’t like is Bugs Life. I will go see the sequal to Cars though, because I really want to see the Toy story short :laughing:

Yeah, that’s the only reason any Toy Story fan is going, unless the legitimately like Cars too.

I’m excited for Cars 2, and not for any Ts short. Wait, Cars 2 has a Toy Story short? :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: screams PERFECT!!! :smiling_imp: I’m ashamed to admit, that doubled my excitement.

I’m excited for anything Pixar brings out.

That’s true…I was doubtful with Ratatouille, but on opening day in the theater, I was eating my words :laughing: However, I was extremely…disappointed with TS3. :l

You expected something different? Yeah, I kind of expected something a bit different too but other than that it gets a 10/10 in my opinion.