You know what really grinds my gears?

It grinds my gears while I’m talking to somebody, they pull out their phone, start texting, and its obvious that they aren’t listening to me anymore. It wouldn’t bother me if they were already texting before we started talking.

Passengers who stop me to ask me a question at work, then their phone rings and they start talking without asking me their question and I’m standing there staring at them like really?!

I can relate to that. It should be legal to break people’s phones when they do that.

It’s so disrespectful!

There’s tons of “teachers breaking students’ phone” on YouTube if you wanna get some revenge wish fulfillment. :smiling_imp:

What really grinds my gears are people who go to work and don’t put in a 100 per cent into their craft. Why are they in this line of job if they’re not passionate about it? It’s okay to have “off days”, where they’re tired or having a mental block. But to do this regularly and expect people to pick up the slack for them is not just annoying, it’s utterly embarassing on their part. :neutral_face:

The fact that McDonald’s keeps being back the McRib sandwich, but not a spicy chicken sandwich. It’s the worst sandwich I’ve ever tasted at a fast food restaurant.

This notion that every female character in every movie needs to be a positive role model. Whatever happened to flawed characters? Character development? Next time I hear some pretentious, ignorant radical feminist whining about how unfeminist it is for a character in a children’s film to love a man or give up something for love(or happiness) I’m going to have a cow!! Especially since said unsaid movies are several decades old!

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I agree that some feminists are digging to deep in this issue. Like “Oh, the little mermaid is bad bc she physically changed herself to be with a man”. NO! Ariel only went to Ursula after her dad totally destroyed her collection. She didn’t leave for Eric.

I resent your “igrnorant radical feminist” comment, because the misrepresentation of women in film and TV is no little matter, and is in fact a serious issue.

I think this issue could improve a lot if there were more females directly involved in media.

I studied (and currently teach) production, and more than 80% or so of the student body are girls. My brother is even teaching to a class that hasn’t even one male! BUT, and I think that’s the root of the problem, very few of them take an active role in the creative aspects of the process, which are those that could mean a significant chance, preferring to stick to the administrative functions that they traditionally do so well.

So, they left the creative roles to the small 20% of males. And we can’t completely blame them for misrepresenting something they don’t fully know.

I agree that the misrepresentation is a serious issue, and I think that saying that almost all female characters are devoid of character development is a misunderstanding. I think I know what are the kind of comments that anger Virginia, though. There’s good feminism, when it’s about finding equality. But we have to admit that there are also radicals, which are as harmful as those things they are against.

I’m sorry I offended you. But I really was referring to some radical feminists I know both at school, and online. And I’m not anti-feminism or feminists. I’m quite neutral. I believe tht everyone is equal, and I resent those(and their books) who insist that women who take the role of wife and mother are unfeminist. That they are weak.I had to write a report on a controversial issue, and I went with gender roles. Many of the books I read suggested that if a woman is pregnant, she should raise the child alone, independent of a man. I am not against single mothers by any terms(actually, I think that shows a level of maturity and strength I envy), but I think condemning traditional family units is horrible. I believe in families of all types, single parent, homosexual parents, whatever. But I certainly am also a fan of the stereotypical mommy, daddy and kids situation. I detest that people would attack family units in this way, saying that being a wife makes one weak.

[quote=“Spirit of Adventure” There’s good feminism, when it’s about finding equality. But we have to admit that there are also radicals, which are as harmful as those things they are against.[/quote]
I’m left speechless, because I often get emotional and can’t speak clearly. Spirit expressed exactly what I wish I could articulate, so I’ll quote them.

What I can’t stand is people on the internet who use the term “autistic” as an alternative meaning for “retarded” or something similar. It may be used to describe angry squeaky kids on an online game for example. Yet as someone with Asperger’s, even I find that said kid in the video acting silly.

However, I mind be a bit hypocritical in that sense considering I have used the term “retard” on YouTube sometimes although I’ve always used it to describe something stupid or someone who is just a common idiot and not as an offensive term. At times however, I do feel it may be wrong. I have regretted saying alot of stuff on the internet to be honest.

What books are these? I’m interested, I’ve done my fair share of studying feminist theories, and I have never heard of this.

I’m not upset, but I just want to point out that it shouldn’t be brushed aside. Spirit pointed out that a big problem is that we women aren’t represented proper ally. Look at the number of women directors and women in Congress. And we make up 51% of the population, and it’s terribly mismatched. This is one reason why I think that Seth MacFarlane is a terrible filmmaker, it’s like progress is going opposite, and he’s contributing to it.

But I agree that often people overreact with feminism in Disney. People are taking the films OUT OF CONTEXT. Which I hate. Complaining about snow White, and CInderella, and Aurora. IT WAS The 1930S-50s. It’s not right to judge other eras films against our own standards.

Case in point: The Crows. Are they racist? YES. But Dumbo came out 2 years after a ban against lynching was taken to congress and was voted down. If people actually paid attention during Dumbo, they would notice that the Crows were among the only positive characters in the film, and were oddly progressive during their time.

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“Most mother-women give up whatever ghost of a unique and human self they may have when they ‘marry’ and raise children.” – Phyllis Chesler, Women and Madness, p.294

“Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the Women’s Movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.” – Sheila Cronan

“The institution of marriage is the chief vehicle for the perpetuation of the oppression of women; it is through the role of wife that the subjugation of women is maintained. In a very real way the role of wife has been the genesis of women’s rebellion throughout history.” – Marlene Dixon, “Why Women’s Liberation? Racism and Male Supremacy”

“How will the family unit be destroyed? … the demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare.” – From Female Liberation by Roxanne Dunbar

“Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership.” – Andrea Dworki

“The institution [of marriage] consistently proves itself unsatisfactory–even rotten… The family is…directly connected to–is even the cause of–the ills of the larger society.” – Shulamith Firestone, The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution (New York: Morrow, 1970), p. 254.

“In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them” – Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Welleslry College and associate director of the school’s Center for Research on Woman

“No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.” – Interview with Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p.18

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” – Sally Miller Gearhart

"The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together. … Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process. … “Families have supported oppression by separating people into small, isolated units, unable to join together to fight for common interests.” – Linda Gordon,

“Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession… The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family-maker is a choice that shouldn’t be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that” – Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, “The Daily Illini,” April 25, 1981

“The nuclear family is a cornerstone of woman’s oppression: it enforces women’s dependence on men, it enforces heterosexuality and it imposes the prevailing masculine and feminine character structures on the next generation.” – Alison Jaggar

It kinda bugs me how stupid a person can be at times. It seems some people beleive Youtube is actally shutting down. To be fear I think it’s mostly kids.

Virgnia; While they’re entitled to their opinion, I disagree with most of those sentiments. They are obviously fundamentalists.

Feminism is actually collection of movements. Mainstream feminism is an idea that women have the SAME opportunities as men. One branch of that is that women have the choice of not only their sexuality, but also their family structure. Those quotes above do not align correctly with mainstream feminism.

As someone who has dealt with pay inequalities on the basis of gender, feminism movements is extremely important to me.

Geoff: It also annoys me that people throw insult words around without properly understanding it. I mean, I’m not outright offended or anything, but it does make me wonder why it’s being used as a negative thing.

The lovely Wanda Sykes did a commercial called That’s So Gay (along with other celebrities).

When terms like retard, gay, n****r are used in a derogatory manner, they gives the association that being an austistic person is “stupid”, or being a homosexual is “stupid”, or being a black person is “stupid”, as if one asks to be that way. And that, to me, is wrong.

I’m okay if it’s used in jest, but it all depends on context. Some minorities have embraced terms like n****r and ch**k, just listen to any dirty rap songs nowadays. I dunno whether endorsing such terms as being acceptable is a good idea, but I’m not gonna throw a hissy fit unless someone uses the term to insult me or anyone else.

One thing I will not stand, though, is over political-correctness. I was subbing an article once, and the newsmaker requested not using the word “needy” or “low-income” to refer to poor families. So other than “poor”, what else could we use? It’s ridiculous.

I call a spade a spade. I don’t call it a “lowly tool for peasants”, neither do I call it a “sophisticated piece of machinery used for digging”. I’m cool with calling Caucasians “white”, African-Americans “black” (some of them may not even be from Africa!), people who are overweight “fat”, etc.

I wrote a blog post about my gripe with calling mentally-disabled people “special”. They have “special needs”, but they are no more “special” than you or me. They are just people. Like you and me.

Pixarfan91: Haha, I was kinda impressed that Youtube had a “live” session going on though. Gonna take years to get through all the nominees.

IV and EJE: As a person with a prostate gland, here’s what I think:

I wrote several posts about the firing of Brenda Chapman from Pixar.

Being Brave is not for girls

Further ruminations on the Chapman incident

Reverence blinds you to inquiry

I’m too tired to reread my posts, but I remember being very angry and suspicious of the official reason Pixar gave for her dismissal. We will never know the true story (unless Chapman writes an autobiography, and even then that’s just her version of the saga).

But I get kinda bored seeing so many old, white men at awards ceremonies. I have nothing against old, white men, but in this day and age, I’m expecting to see a lot more diversity. Same for Asian awards ceremonies (although I’m not aware of many actors from US or Europe who are prominent in the Asian entertainment industry). You cannot imagine my excitement when I saw a white guy at a Malay entertainment awards industry (he played a villain in a soap opera).

On a related note, I’m playing the new Tomb Raider game. There was a huge controversy about her supposedly being raped, but it turned out not to be true. I think it would’ve been an uncomfortable subject to portray in a videogame, but I think the story would’ve been more compelling (and it’s not like movies haven’t portrayed such scenes before).

There’s too many “tough chick” characters who abuse guys physically, mentally and sometimes sexually for comedy. What if the role was reversed? It’s become such a cliche for a female assassin to run around kicking *ss (Charlie’s Angels, Resident Evil movies, Nikita, etc). The best female roles, in my opinion, are the ones showing women showing vulnerability, yet prevailing in the face of adversity.

In the Tomb Raider reboot, Lara screams in fear, whimpers in pain, and cries with fury. She tumbles down abysses, gets punched by henchmen and crawls through smelly catacombs. She’s not like the old Lara who dresses skimpily and shoots dinos and goons without remorse or a drop of sweat. When she reveals how terrified or angry she is, we empathise with her, and she becomes more “human”. She reminded me of Bruce Willis’ John McClane in the first Die Hard before he got bored and jaded in A Good Day To Die Hard.

The diversity of female roles in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is also another reason why I love the show so much (which creator Lauren Faust intended). Each of the six protagonists have different skillsets and personalities. There’s a nerd, a wallflower, a partygoer. Even the ones you’d think be stereotypical, the fashionista Rarity or the jock Rainbow Dash, for example, have nuances that counter their stereotypes (Rarity for example, is generous and Rainbow shows moments of compassion). Most of the characters are mares. They get thrown through windows, smacked against cliffs and get falling anvils dropped their heads (slapstick antics which, for too long, have exclusively happened to male cartoon characters). Even the fandom mascot, Derpy Hooves, is a wall-eyed, dopey simpleton, yet most fans love her not in spite of her character, but because of it.

Colette from Ratatouille started off as a stereotypical woman raging against the establishment, but when she falls for Linguini and shows her heartbreak during the latter’s confession scene, she became a better character for me. Same for Sawyer from Cats Don’t Dance (a great flick on industry discrimination), who showed tenderness in her “Tell No Lies” number. Same for Tigress (“Even the hardcore understand”) from KFP2 and Vanellope (“You really are a bad guy”) from WIR, who started off as “tough chick” characters too.

I’m tired of all this “girl power” crap. It’s not female empowerment, it’s patronising and sending the message that it’s old-fashioned to be afraid or gasp feminine.

If you think subjecting fictional female characters to adversity, abuse or embarassment and having them show a reasonable human reaction to them (exhaustion, fear or distress) is sexist or misogynist, let me point out the numerous amount of male action or comedy heroes who get shot at, kicked in the nuts or suffer humiliation from female protagonists or antagonists.

And yes, I think the same for male characters too. Beefcake characters played by Arnie, Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson and Vin Diesel are fun, but the ones I like are the goofy-yet-cool ones like Jackie Chan’s characters, or Johnny Depp’s Jack Sparrow (whom I once cosplayed) and Bruce Willis’ characters. It’s okay to be strong, but it’s even stronger to show weakness.

Regarding marriage, it’s fine to have wedding a man (or a woman) as a life goal, although if you want to go at child-raising alone, that’s fine too. A recent Singapore fertility campaign actually generated controversy because it encouraged women to marry and have kids (in that order) before they got too old.

One last point. I can’t stand double standards. If girls want to be equal, they should hold the door for guys if they are ahead of them. Or help a guy if he’s got a lot of things to carry. Of course, there are some things that gentlemen should do, like pulling a chair on a dinner date, or walking a girl home if it’s a dangerous neighbourhood. But a woman should be treated with respect, not because she’s a woman, but because she’s a human being (Which is why I find the statement “That’s not how you treat a lady” questionable - if she wasn’t a lady, would you show her any less respect?).

One of my favourite shows, What Would You Do? shows this with an abusive girlfriend. Yes, a man is more physically capable of defending herself. But that doesn’t absolve the guilty of her crime (in fact, it is classic victim blaming).

Finding Nemo 2/Finding Dory actually happening.

I too think there is something incredibly suspicious about Chapman’s dississal. But I wouldn’t count on ever knowing it. I love Disney movies and theme parks, but the corporation itself is terrifying. It is EXTREMELY difficult to write a book about Disney, without Disney publishing it itself.

I’ve been looking forward to reading a book on my favorite Disney animator, Ward Kimball (He created Jiminy Cricket, and also animated the Crows in Dumbo, Panchito Pistoles, and The Mad Hatter). The book is supported by his family and written by a renown animation historian. But pressure from Disney has had the book cancelled, because it didn’t fit with “Disney approved narrative” and Disney likes to keep their artists in a mythological state. (More info read here: cartoonbrew.com/disney/advan … 73722.html)

On MLP. That’s exactly the point I’m trying to make,t here needs diversity. It’s fine to have a female character rely on a man, but if that’s the only roles assigned for women that’s where the issue is. Not that they exist, but that’s their only option.

On the issue of feminism and Vannelope: What makes me upset is that people complained there was NO obligatory romance for the main character in the film, and that Vannellope should of been an adult women for Ralph. No, just no.

And I too like What Would You Do. Great social experiment.

Ugh. The obligatory romance thing always gets on my nerves.

It’s also hurting the film business a lot.

I agree. I don’t think many people think this way. But, I said, Radical Feminists,. And that’s what I meant. :smiley:

TDIT: OMG yes. The Pony gang are such a great example. And, none of them are dependent on males. Yet, nobody praises these characters/ They simply bash on the characters who are questionable. One might also mention(Perhaps out of bias, but I think they’re good examples the Batman female villains. Well, maybe not Harley. She’s kind of all over “Mr. J.” 8D Or Demona from Gargoyles. The good examples always get overlooked. :frowning: And that’s exactly what I mean! You hit it on the head. Many feminists do not, in fact, want equal treatment, they want superiority.

I’m indifferent to Feminism. It’s radical Feminism(which is more common than you may think) that I think is evil, just like radical anything tbh.

I don’t understand indifference to feminism, sorry. I wish I still had the picture, but the quote was something along the lines of: “I want anti-feminist men to explain to their mothers, daughters, and sisters why they’re against the idea of gender equality”. (Equality, not women over men like the radicals think)

Hatred is currently the number one thing that grinds my gears. I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand why you would spend time not liking something while you can easily just leave it be and spend that same time liking something else?

Human behaviour baffles me sometimes.

I’m a feminist myself but not the, uh, rabid kind. I simply believe girls deserve the same amount of appreciation as boys! Doesn’t mean I hate guys or something. I think both genders are equal, that’s all!

I also have quite a dislike for homophobia. Why do people concern themselves so much about the sexuality of people they’re not having, uh… you know with? Tsk, tsk!