Academy Awards 2012

When do they usually start showing the nominations?

The nominations are announced on January 24.

Oh man, A mounth away.

Yep. Sometimes, I look forward to the nominations more than to the actual ceremony.

That was the case during the last two years.

I forogt, did Toy Story 3 get nominated for Best Picture? I’m sure it did then lost. I was hoping for it lose anyway.

Yes, both Up and Toy Story were nominated for Best Picture, a great honor.

True, but I don’t want an animated film to ever win it.

Why^^? I would have happily had Toy Story 3 win it, even though The King’s Speech is a great film.

Why wouldn’t you want an animated film to win, out of interest? I think that an animation has every right to win the awards live action films can. Perhaps not for Best Actor or Actress, but certainly best Director, Screenplay and Picture. At the end of the day, Best film should be Best film, regardless of the way it is shot, the target audience or the subject matter.

I would love to see the day an animated film wins Best Picture.

Me too. And I think if anyone can do it, it’s Pixar.

Maybe the Mind film :smiley:

That’d be perfect! It’s very Oscar-baity sounding.

Btw, The Smurfs is disqualified from the race for Best Animated Feature, but Alvin and the three mocap films have been accepted on the grounds of the directors intentions for the films look. This now brings those eligible down to 17, so we may get 3 or 4 instead of 5 nominations now after all.
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I just think it would be stupid. What if Madagascar 3 won? They made Best Animated Film for a reason. If their wasn’t a Best Animated Film Award, then it can be nominated for best picture. But If an Animated movie can win ir, then Best Animated Film us Useless.

Didn’t get the Madagascar 3 example.

If an animated film wins it’s probably because it’s good.

If a bad one wins it can be as much a bad live action film as an animated one.

Also, I don’t think two separate categories are bad. A film can be the best animated one of the year, but maybe it’s not the BEST one overall. So why it shouldn’t be recognized as the best on its category?

But what if it did win. Then more studios decided to make animated films. Those got good reviews and maybe made a lot of money. Diffrent movies get picked for a nomionation giving Pixar a less of a chance to win. Then Pizar goes home with less awards more othen. What if that happened?

I don’t really care how many awards Pixar wins so much as the most deserving studio/film/short winning the award.

The Best Animated Feature category is kind of an iffy subject for me. While I totally think animation should be seen as a medium and not a genre, I also feel like the BAF category provides a sort of safety net until general bias against animation has decreased. Having 10 spots for Best Picture helps, I think, because I feel like a lot of people still see the 10 slots as worthy contenders, and then the 10 nominations also allows for more variety in choices.

I’d like to hear what members of the Academy have to say about animation when compared to live-action: what, exactly, separates animation from live-action movies in terms of substance? Is it not just because they’re animated but because they’re appropriate for all ages? I don’t get it. A lot of animated films, including some from Pixar, have spectacular acting from animators and voice actors, gorgeous environments and color palettes, clever scripts, stories that can make a full-grown adult simultaneously weep and laugh until their belly hurts, unexpected and exciting stories, masterfully constructed storylines… I could go on and on. I can name a couple animated films of the last decade that are not only executed better than but are also less “cliché” than some recent BP winners. And this is coming from someone who loves animation but is also a general film buff, so I wouldn’t consider myself partial to a particular medium. Just sayin’. Also, I feel like animated films should count for categories like art direction.

I don’t know. I wish the Academy Awards were less predictable and more open to movies that aren’t cookie-cutter “Oscar bait.” There have been some exceptions, like Slumdog Millionaire or even some Disney/Pixar nominations (Beauty and the Beast), but still. There shouldn’t just be a FEW cases every now and then when a movie that is beloved by both critics and audiences alike is recognized in major categories; that should be the norm!

Everything you said made perfect sense to me ^^.

That’s the simple way to put it. It should be the essence of the thing.

I’m kind of iffy about BAF as well. It just seems that it’s inferior to live-action movies.