Thanks. Reminiscing about him now makes me kind of wish I still had him. I’ve actually done quite well in hanging onto a lot of my toys from childhood - most of them are either in the attic or stored away in my old bedroom at my parents’ house. But I suspect we may have drawn the line with an empty bubble bath bottle.
Anyhow, I’m afraid I have to disagree with Pixar Builder about Bo being a bland and underdeveloped character. She doesn’t get a lot of screen time in either film, I’ll grant you, but I think you still get a pretty good feel of who she is - that is, one of the most intelligent, compassionate, dependable and level-headed of all the toys in Andy’s bedroom. She gushes over Woody, but not mindlessly so - it’s clear that she genuinely sees the best in him, and has the warmth and the wisdom to help him overcome his occasional feelings of self-doubt, in both movies. I also feel that Annie Potts’ voice work added a lot to her character, giving her a soothing, gentle quality, but also quite a strong and spunky one too. I certainly never saw her as a mere token female - that may have been Pixar’s initial intention, but I believe that she evolved beyond that and wound up becoming a perfectly charming and distinctive character in her own right. So yeah, I trust Pixar’s judgement, but I’ll miss the old girl.
xPixiexDustx: [spoiler]The climax of the film wouldn’t work with so many characters, but also it wouldn’t work with any less, and there needs to be a motive to “stick together”, hence it is for the greater good. It is most likely that Bo-Peep’s “disappearance” is the driving force for Woody for this motive - parallel to Buzz’s true emotions for Jessie (whoops, did I say too much? =P)
Him leaving everyone else at Sunnyside might give him the impression of being a jerk, but that’s just an side effect of his persona of being loyal and seeing the bigger picture. Having Bo-Peep gone is quite the nail in the coffin for his decision to “return back to Andy”.[/spoiler]
I was going to post why is Mrs Potato Head in Andy’s toys, but then I realized that [spoil]she’s in Molly’s Sunnyside box (in the preview clip) along with Barbie, etc[/spoil].
But that still doesn’t make sense [spoil]why her eye is in Andy’s room (Andy’s looking for us! from the trailers) [/spoil]
Oddly enough, with the ending as it is, [spoil]I could see Andy tie in Bo with the rest of the characters, seeing as how Bonnie is a little girl, younger than Andy was even in the first movie. [/spoil]
now that i’ve seen the movie, i think they handled bo the best way they could. still sad about it, and i began thinking about how she must feel wherever she is, but it’s for the best. what lee says in the art of toy story 3 is a very good point.
i know it’s a long shot, but i think it’d be cool if they made one of the toy story toons a prequel of sorts, and included some of the toys who got sold before 3. they have ten whole years between 2 and 3 to work with. but i dunno.
[spoiler]Okay, the finale definately wouldn’t be fit for Bo, though she might’ve added to the emotion of the incinerator scene. All the toys that have been given away could’ve fit, but they’d require lots of assistance.
The scene where they mention the loss of all the toys was also very emotional. Woody calls for a staff meeting, but realizes they’re the only ones left. There was a big “awww” from the audience when Bo was mentioned.
And the part where Bo wouldn’t fit when being donated to Bonnie definately isn’t true. They’re all normal toys, but it’s Andy’s imagination that makes them extraordinary.[/spoiler]
Yeah, after seeing the movie I couldn’t see Bo fitting into the story as well, unless she stood at Andy’s house throughout the movie. Which (as much as I would have liked it to happen), wouldn’t make sense.
Man, when Woody got chocked up about Bo the whole audience couldn’t believe it! There was so many awws and groans when that happened. Still wish she would have somehow been in the story instead of only being there for a few seconds during the home videos.
Someone on Cartoon Brew claims they couldn’t get Anne Potts to return for the voice. I’m trying to get him to name a source as Ive never heard that before,
It’s amazing just how much Toy Story has stayed with people over the years that most of the audience would already understand what the characters are going through the first time they see the film. People who might be new to the films would probably see it and not see what the rest of us do in these scenes. It’s the sign of a great film when you can actually grow with the characters and feel what they feel.
The midnight showing definately has a good audience. They were clapping at everything; the Pixar logo, the title card, Woody’s introduction, and the ending. Plus all the emotional oos, ahhhs, and shrieks.
that crossed my mind, but i couldn’t imagine why not. if that’s true, that’s a shame. i hope it might’ve just been scheduling conflicts, not some sort of beef with pixar.
UPDATE haha just found the thread at CB, saw the messages as well as your own post =P
Without a reliable source, I’d doubt that. They found a replacement voice actor for Slinky, after all - if they really wanted to keep Bo then I’m sure they would have done the same. Not that Annie Potts is easily replaceable, but then I would have said the same about Jim Varney.
As much as Lee or whoever else didn’t want Bo around, for whatever reason, it still hurts.
Here’s my beef- though she was technically Molly’s toy, every other time we’ve seen her, she’s been played with by Andy- right down to the beginning of TS2 where she’s once again Andy’s damsel in distress for his “five minutes” climax scene where Woody’s arm rips.
My point is this, as far as I saw her, she was Andy’s toy, very viable in his games, his imagination, and certainly as Woody’s love interest.
True, after Jessie’s inclusion, this might’ve changed- Andy, as a character, like some fans I’ve read, might’ve paired Jessie with Woody during his playtime scenarios, though for the Buzz/Jessie fans like myself, I sincerely hope not.
I’m just miffed at why didn’t Andy think she was worth saving. I’m speaking from the viewpoint of the TS world, not from Lee or anyone else’s actual reasoning.
I know I’ve saved my old Barbie Teresa, even though I let go of several of my various dolls and toys over the years. She was Jordan (my favorite guy doll)"s love interest and I know he’d pull my eyes out if I ever got rid of her. -Omar
For all we know molly could have been the one to give her up, being her toy andy has no say. Or sheccouls have broken, right? They were pretty vague, right? They just say they “lost” Bo.
I do have some fondness for the character, so I personally would be a lot happier knowing that she simply went on to another home, as opposed to being broken and dumped in the garbage can.
Of course, watching Toy Story 2 recently, I noticed that the toys do seem to equate being “yard saled” with death - note that when Rex thought that Woody was deliberately offering himself up for sale, he referred to it as “suicide”. Perhaps to a toy, to see a companion get sold and taken away amounts to much the same thing, since odds are that they’ll never see them again.
You’re right Kyle, she does belong to Molly. I guess in the ten year gap between TS2 and 3, Molly could’ve lost, broken or sold Bo herself.
Why is she Andy’s responsibility? I guess because I look at things through my own eyes. My friends and ex had toys that they were giving away, and I gladly took them because I knew they’d get playtime with me. We’ve been shown Andy being the one to actively play with Bo, and granted, he does play with her, as well as Mrs. Potato Head (also Molly’s toy) among others (the Barbie car, for example), so I naturally figured that they (Bo, Mrs P, etc) had some meaning to him. -Omar
-Omar