Well therefore I could say that we aren’tt MEANT to know anything. If god is almighty surely he could prove it to everyone that he does exist.
and why is god a man? and why did men come along first?
also, apocalypse means ‘revealing’.
Really???..our founding fathers wrote many articles that held in them references to God and yet they all hated him??
So any person can make up their own standards right?
I said nothing about your founding fathers hating God. Sure they wrote about him and whatnot, but some evidence does suggest that they were Deists, or Agnostics, or even Atheists, but it was just the norm to believe in God and they perhaps feared oppression.
However, the Founding Fathers founded your country, The United States of America as a secular country, that is, a separation of Church and State. The Church was for God, and the State was for running things and they weren’t to interfere with each other, however look at your country today. It would be impossible for someone to be President (or any position of elected power it seems) if they didn’t believe in a Christian God. Christianity is everywhere in the US, heck, George Bush dragged half the Western world into a stupid war because God told him to!
What kind of war monger is God? Church and State should NEVER mix.
Al-Bob - Aww, why does what I painstakingly write out for you always escape your scrutiny? 
Rac_Rules - I really don’t know what to say to that first paragraph… at least you admitted you couldn’t really give me an answer to my question, though.
also, I will again ask:
why is god a man? and why did men come along first?
I don’t think God is a man. I don’t really think he has a shape or form. He is just a being, a power. He is in everything and nothing, at the same time.
Patience, young grasshopper.
Isn’t God referred to in the Bible as ‘He’? Correct me if I’m wrong, though. And there is the general assumption that God is a man, but that can be applied to many other things in life where men have the supposed advantage over women. And why is that? Because of evolution. 
See, it’s all circles and roundabouts. Or, whatever the saying is.
swings and roundabouts 
and rac, you referred to it as a He.
I’d just like to add that God made man in his image, so I assume as God is the perfect being, he is also the perfect realization of what a man should look like.
once again, that is implying that he is a man.
Why is a coutnry called she??
God is called he becuase it resembles power and authority…
The bible wasn’t created in the 21th century where equal oppertunity was rampant.
Rachel i’m pretty sure that the story of adam/eve, the flood, and the bible aren’t things we just believe happened…if i believe it…its true for me. I can’t see why it can’t be believed or known and not taken literally. Your point is quite confusing… 
Why did God let bad things happen…becuase he watned man to have the free will to make decisions. I’ve gone over this like three times now but it still comes up…
Example-You make a robot…now it has no personality…What jobs would you have it do??..chores…what if you instilled a personality into it…what jobs could it do know??..advice…talking…debating…discussing…could it also make bad personal decisions of its own…yes. This is man…
I believe that many christians are racial and hateful becuase we are hard harted towards sinners…we take one look at a man with a tatoo and go…ohhhh SINNER!!!
I’ve never been color racial…who here is racial!!! Obama is using the racist card for his own advantage!!!
The reader can read it differently with each passing day but God’s truths never change…here’s a good question…Do truths change??
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I understand your not saying they hated God but what you are saying is this…
Huh!!!
yes…Man was made in God’s image…but Women was also made in Man’s and God’s image from the man. That is why it was always natural for the men to lead the household and the family until the 20th century…
Why shouldn’t state and church mix?? Why not??
Lie…Jefferson was the only congressmen or founding father to ever say that they could be seperation of church and state…please post other founding fathers who said such things…
What would have happened if we didn’t??
I understand that bush has made some wrong decisions and i blame him and ALL OF CONGRESS FOR GOING ALONG WITH THEM!!! But at this point it isn’t just Bush…its everyone. Our entire congress is with this bad decision making…
What would have happened if Kerry was in office? Would he have gone after Bin Laden…Hussain…Al Qiaeda??
Then there has to be given moral standards…right. This is commonly known as revealed truths…but revealed truths are only from a God.
I’m a little confused by your responce…
I think we call God He for the same reason we call ships her and she. They don’t have actual sexes, but that is our way of referring to them other than “it”, since “it” tends to be degrading.
I learned in Bible study that God was more angry before Jesus, which was when he became more merciful. Jesus sacrificed himself so all of our sins would be forgiven yada yada yada, you know the drill.
here’s a little about sep church/state
The first part is from the constitution…the second part is where it all got started
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. No mention of a “separation of church and state”. That came in an 1803 letter from Thomas Jefferson to a Baptist minister to assure him that the United States would never declare a state religion.
Al-Bob - The word is “racist” not “racial.”
I know your reasoning to why God gave us free will, but my main point was that I don’t understand why when good things happen you are quick to attribute it to the Lord, but when bad things happen, it’s because of humans’ free will, or evil or the signs of the apocalypse or something. Or if something terrible happens in this world and you acknowledge that God could have stepped in and prevented it, you say that he didn’t because it’s all part of his ‘master plan’ of which we shouldn’t question. I’m just saying that theory is mighty convenient if you ask me.
And you think MY point is confusing? Just because millions of people believe something is true, it doesn’t mean it happened. It was once believed as fact that the sun revolved around the Earth, but that didn’t make it true and now we have evidence saying that the sun is the centre of our galaxy, and we are not even the centre of the universe. Majority opinion does not make fact.
And what is so confusing about my point(s)? If you would like me to clarify any of them just say so (even though the last one I repeated for you again but put it in easier to understand terms.)
But if there was no religion, there would be Christians around to compare people to their morally superior way of life so maybe this wouldn’t happen so much? I don’t know… And isn’t it true that in God’s eyes everyone is a sinner, anyway?
But how would we discern between what is God’s truth and what isn’t in the Bible? Who is the one that makes that call?
“Do truths change?” Hmm… who’s truth? Everybody’s truths are different.
Good question…i guess we use that saying because we know that man is sinful and thus will do things against God’s will that will cause consiquences…and the best way to encourage people (or at least it was) was to say that whatever happened it will come out right…
How does your point make the ideas of the flood and adam/eve false??
But do real truths change…No they don’t.
Do facts taht are proven over and over change…no
If a truth changes can it be true when it started?? No
God in all his power and infinite wisdom could have so very easily made humans not have the ability to conceive of doing evil. It wouldn’t make us any less of a person just because we couldn’t conceive of doing something. We can’t conceive of how God made the Earth and Universe in his wisdom, so why couldn’t God have just added doing evil to that list. We would still have the free will to do what we like, but if we can’t physically do something or conceive of it, we aren’t any less of a person because of it.
There are MANY problems with Evil as I have listed earlier in this thread.
God didn’t create evil…if he had then it would have been a sin…Man created evil. Every free will has the option of making a bad decision…you and i do…if we have free will then we have to be able to make the wrong decision in certain times…this is where evil comes in. We want to be like God so we take the freedom to choose the opposite of what he wanted…
Its rather philosphical…
Your posting about a holiday…not a state.
That is why it is called CHRISTmas…it was started because of Christ. Other wise it would be called ramahanquanzmas…
The first amendment was written to make sure no religion could ever be erased from the country…
If i am wrong then i don’t get your post…
And Al-Bob, you didn’t really say anything what I said. Even if God didn’t create Evil (One might count natural disasters as evil thing that happens that God could prevent), he could in his power made us not conceive of any evil ever so no evil would ever happen and we would still have free will. There are many things we can’t conceive of and just because we can’t conceive of them doesn’t mean we don’t have free will.