I’m kind of getting sick of WoodyXJessie…that’s nasty.
As I’m apparently the only Synlet shipper on the site who’s willing to post here, I feel a need to defend my fandom while trying not to offend anyone in the process. I personally like hero/villain pairings, love/hate pairings, and sarcastic humor. People who have an issue with the age gap sort of bugs me personally, because my great-aunt and great-uncle were the happiest couple I could think of and he was ten years older than she was. While I’m a little bothered that people aren’t more accepting of the age gaps, I have to admit that if Violet’s fourteen and he’s twenty-five or something, that’s… no. Sixteen isn’t much better, and I don’t think I’ve read a single one of the “adulted” chapters in any of the fanfics. I love the pairing, but… I just don’t read that stuff. End of story.
I honestly do believe that Syndrome, if alive, would try for revenge another time, no matter how cliche it may seem. He’s practically obsessed with the Parrs, moreso Mr. Incredible than Vi herself. In my opinion, Vi seemed to have a stronger relationship with her dad than her mom… maybe that’s just me, though. Fathers don’t like their daughters being kidnapped, and… that’s where it starts. Sometimes.
I’ve tried to keep as far away from the stereotypical capture fics myself. Yes, they’re tried and true, but sometimes they just start to get… old. Then the fanfics start to blend together.
I’m probably just a rabid shipper, but I really do think that Syndrome has some speck of good somewhere. He was Incrediboy at one point, after all, and I could twist his motives to look good but I don’t think any of you would believe me anyway. I have a tendency to split his personality into two distinct halves- Buddy and Syndrome, Buddy being Incrediboy grown up with some semblance of morals and a conscience; and Syndrome being an immature revenge-driven homicidal megalomaniacal twit. At least, that’s how Buddy sees it.
Violet didn’t seem to like the concept of being a hero in the beginning, and it’s harder to change than she makes it look. If she and Tony broke up, she could pretty easily slingshot right back into her insecure mode. There’s also the concept of Stockholm syndrome, and people put into traumatic situations together tend to start to bond due to the similarity. (although as previously mentioned, saved lives =/= instant romance. You have to build that kind of thing up first.) I find it hard to believe that she’d automatically fall for him for no reason.
Sometimes, there are bad fics. I don’t think that Helen or Bob would abuse Vi for falling in love with a supervillain. They’d be really mad, but they wouldn’t hurt her. They’re not like that, and I’ve never read such a fanfic. Bob getting mad is almost a necessity, but if there’s anyone he beats up on, it’s Syndrome. Sometimes, she is ignored to an extent, but it’s either because the author doesn’t have enough excuses to get her away from her family, or it’s told from her point of view and she’s exaggerating.
I know it’s a little bit all over the place but those are some of the main reasons I support Synlet. I like developing their characters, I love writing it and getting critique from people (especially people who didn’t like Synlet to begin with), and writing the banter is just so much FUN. There’s definitely a lot of hate in their relationship, but that just makes the love so much better.
(And yet I’m working on a friendship fic where everything is platonic between them as I type this. )
Yes! I’ve never really liked the Woody x Jessie stuff.
Okay, clarification time. I didn’t want to seem like I was mad or anything, but I might’ve come off that way. I respect your opinions, and I can see why people would like Viony or Willet, and legitimate reasons to hate Synlet. I just felt a need to stick up for it by giving reasons why I liked it. Unfortunately I don’t think I represented the fandom very well. They weren’t… very good reasons, in my opinion.
I don’t know. I guess I’m just saying I didn’t really mean to kill the topic or anything.
And on a side note, Woody x Jessie is… ew. Buzz x Jessie forever!
Anything slash…why take something innocent and disgust it…?
Top 3 things that seriously irritate me about Wall-E fanfics, by Chuckles :
3: One thing I think is really over-used about Wall-E fanfics is the scenario when the entire fanfic is just a scene from the movie in first-person form of one of the characters. This doesn’t make me mad really, and alot of fanfics like this are really good, but I do think that it feels tiring when you come up across one. This wouldn’t be a problem to me normally, but the scenes used in these fanfics are usually always the same ones! Like I said, alot of fanfics like these are really good, but I’d much rather read something original.
2: The Wall-E+Eve child idea. Now I get it, alot of fanfic writers are so touched by the romance of the main characters that they decided they would have a child. That’s fine, but the author almost never explains how the child came to be, and if they do the answer usually isn’t very believable. One exception to this rule is in this fanfic where EVE and Wall-E revive a bunch of dead Wall-E units and group them together with the remaining EVE probes sort of as their adopted children. Viola! Creative and believable. I’m sorry, but I don’t buy how most fanfics explain how Wall-E and EVE created a child, and I also don’t believe how in most fanfics the child is a hybrid of both the parents. These aren’t human beings (as close to humans as they are) they are robots!
3: Stop it with all the humanized version stories! It’s driving me insane!
Sorry for that Arkie, have had some bad experiences there. Though I don’t care for the ship for myself, it’s just that it does seem to be everywhere.
Re: Slash: So having two same sex characters together automatically= ‘disgusting’?
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I mean I get slash not being ‘your thing’ and all because some people like to put themselves in the place of characters or whatever (though I don’t personally usually use pairings as a way of ‘living vicaciously’ anyway or just for kinks unless in the former I really relate to a character on a high level, I mean I guess it happens sometimes, but it’s secondary to other things like relationship and beleivability of orientation as well as other factors), but calling such pairings ‘disgusting’ simply on the basis of them being slash or same sex pairings is pretty bad. I mean I get people not liking porn of Pixar in general as turning something innocent into something very overtly adult, but saying slash or same sex pairings is disgusting is a bit disturbing. I hope this was just poor wording on your part or a misunderstanding.
You don’t have to be into slash (I mean duh, that doesn’t make someone a homophobe) but calling it disgusting out right, like the idea a same sex kiss needs a higher rating that a het kiss is rediculous to me. And always will be.
(And now I’m probably going to be dogpiled by people who want to defend this opinion as somehow not wrong. Sigh.).
I guess I somewhat agree with you, but there are far worse things out there than **** of Pixar. Things I will not mention on this site…Wait, what are we talking about? ( half-sarcasm)
Dang censorship! Honestly, I think the levels this place goes to for that is pretty silly.
‘birds and the bees’ should be ‘gender’ but I used the more common term. Probably shouldn’t have.
the **** refers to… rather adult pictures or whatever (or perhaps fanfic) you might find so called PWP… ifyouknowwhatImean.. I mean I get people finding that wrong (turning innocent things into uh well extremely adult like things- depends though, I’d hate it for dear innocent WALL-E for instance who has been himself for 700 years and won’t really grow up… in that way).
Hopefully you did get most of it though? I think you did. XD
Gah, my post looks all weird though.
Silly censorship.
I have my opinions you have yours, but don’t get on my case because,of a certian thing that I don’t like…and yes I do think it’s disgusting.I’ve already been hammered enough on here for not having a “popular opinion”…
I agree totally. XcarluverX, I agree, slash for the most part is no good for me either. I found a BuzzXWoody video on youtube the other day I’m tainted now…holds head and screams
On a side note, I usually don’t like slash, but if someone can actually make it work, I’d like the fanfic/story.
mentalguru: I graphed it once, and Synlet does make up almost if not half of the romance fanfictions for The Incredibles, so I can see where you’d get sick of it. Some of the concepts do get done to death, but when I write I try to take a different approach on it. And then there’s Birds of a Feather, which I’m writing just for you guys here at Pixar Planet because I realize that there aren’t a lot of fans of Synlet here and I want to be able to share my greatest gift with you guys because you’re awesome. That, and the story idea’s been bouncing around in my head for a long time. (I’m working on it. )
IncredigirlVirginia: I saw a little bit of one of BuzzXWoodyXJessie which was… really weird. I didn’t even watch it all the way through because it had a plotline in the summary and it didn’t sound like a good idea.
I get really tired of humanizations. The stories/drawings themselves are really good, but not on a character that’s already had a great movie where they’re not a human.
And WALL-E playing with human kids would be sooo cute. I would do it, unless someone else has. I’m already having some ideas just thinking about it.
True that.
I mean, all I want is a well written, cute Lightning and Sally fic of them being themselves. NOT HUMANS. Why is every fic of them humanized?
On a non-Pixar level, romantic fanfictions written for characters that bring them WAY OOC for the sake of being “cute.” I like a certain pairing where the male is asocial, obnoxious, cynical and has very little boundaries. Why do half the fics of that pairing turn him into Will friggin Schuester? Even the fics of another pairing of him and his best friend (one of the only yaoi pairings I kind of like), the pairing that supposedly for the “smart” fans, he’s not in character AT ALL.
Arkie, yeah, that sounds disturbing. I don’t like three-way relationships.
Regarding slash pairings, I share the same view as Arkie. To make things clear, I support same-s*x relationships (even though I’m hetero). Now that I’ve got my personal bias out of the way, I still don’t like slash pairings if it’s unjustified. Of course, this is pretty subjective, but I think some relationships are pretty dried-and-cut.
Take Lightning McQueen, for example. We know he obviously loves the ladies. We know he digs the Miata twins, and half the movie he was trying to snag Sally. Doc hates Lightning (at least, initially) but ends up being a mentor and a ‘father figure’ for him. And Mater, we know he’s hetero, cos’ of “Doreen”. So when a yaoi writer tries to pair Lightning with Doc or Mater, I don’t really dig that, because canon evidence points otherwise.
Now Filmore and Sarge, on the other hand…
Regarding Woody x Jessie, I am in the majority opinion. They share a ‘sibling relationship’; it might be different from their ‘television versions’, but that’s the impression I get. Some scenes from Toy Story 3 have pretty much confirmed what Buzz x Jessie shippers have suspected anyway, so it’s a pretty done deal.
One thing I think is really over-used about Wall-E fanfics is the scenario when the entire fanfic is just a scene from the movie in first-person form of one of the characters. This doesn’t make me mad really, and alot of fanfics like this are really good, but I do think that it feels tiring when you come up across one.
Ugh, I’m kinda sick of first-person movie recaps. I’ve read a few good ones which have brought a different angle or illuminated a character’s inner motivations, but most of the time I felt like watching the movie again instead of being absorbed into the fanfic. If you wanna do fanfics, make 'em your own story!
I’m sorry, but I don’t buy how most fanfics explain how Wall-E and EVE created a child, and I also don’t believe how in most fanfics the child is a hybrid of both the parents.
Also the fact that it destroys the theme of ‘unconditional and chaste love’. I know we humans are capable of loving each other even after having children (sometimes even more!), but the fact that these are non-living beings incapable of reproduction is to serve as a metaphor for true love in its purest form. Having a child, IMHO, sorts of defeats the ‘purpose’, in my mind. And thanks for the fanfic, it sounds adorable and done right!
Stop it with all the humanized version stories! It’s driving me insane!
I’m not a big fan of Cars/Wall-E human fanfics either, unless the story is compelling enough, like little_chef or JSWeC’s stories.
I have a tendency to split his personality into two distinct halves- Buddy and Syndrome
Ooh… multiple personality disorder. Interesting take.
There’s also the concept of Stockholm syndrome
That was a title I was considering for an Incredibles fanfic actually…
There’s definitely a lot of hate in their relationship, but that just makes the love so much better.
Which probably explains why I dig buddy cop movies, especially if the partners are of the opposite gender.
I know this ain’t Pixar related but it’s somewhat relevant.
I love Rare ltd.'s music they use in their games and listen to them occasionally. But some smarta** decided to use those musics in his COMPLETELY UNRELATED videos (that are inappropriate in a way, so I can’t post what)… and now their fans are constantly posting references to that video on the music while the person who uploaded the music doesn’t have a clue what they’re talking about. That just gets my blood boiling, can’t they take their crud somewhere else?
Sorry, I was just incredibly annoyed by that.
We’re talking about slash now?
Oh I see. I don’t mind gays in general, really I don’t, please don’t think I’m homophobic. But when people start shipping characters who totally aren’t interested in each other I get a little bit annoyed, to say the least. Now I do admit I have slashed some characters one time or another but I usually keep it to myself.
ESPECIALLY people who slash characters from well-known family-friendly stuff. Like Toy Story. That’s just downright scary. D:
EDIT: Oh, interspecies romance. Meh, I don’t mind, as long as they both can give consent, are sentient, you know. With ‘funny animals’ ‘furries’ and ‘anthropomorphic’ creatures, I mean, I’m okay with that. As long as they both walk and talk, and cartoony, I’m okay with that.
Trust me, I’ve come across ToothlessxHiccup. My mind has been scarred.
But when people start shipping characters who totally aren’t interested in each other I get a little bit annoyed, to say the least.
I agree. And this also applies to hetero-shipping characters for me.
Meh, I don’t mind, as long as they both can give consent, are sentient, you know.
Yup, totally agree with that too. I think Melman and Gloria is the cutest example I can think of, and Oscar and Annie from Shark Tale is also pretty sweet (I love that scene where Oscar almost catches Annie doodling ‘love messages’ in her diary and then innocently describes her as his “best friend”). Marlin and Dory, Bolt and Mittens, Hugo and Rita are up in the air for me, but if a fanfic writer makes good points and develops the relationship right, I’m willing to accept that.
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One thing I’m very nitpicky about is correct grammar and spelling! Now, if there’s the occasional slip-up (which I’m also guilty of from time to time), that’s okay. But if it’s all pervasive and distracts the reader, then it’s time to brush up on your punctuation and tenses!
Here’s two cringeworthy examples for laffs done by a fanvid-dubber I admire:
Oh boy, correct grammar. Yeah, I get really annoyed when people write ‘u’ instead of ‘you’ and stuff. I mean, really. Is it so hard? Apparently, because I see so much stories with loads of spelling errors. I’m not too good either and I know English isn’t my first language but HEY, I at least TRY to write without errors. Hm. Microsoft Word’s spellcheck for the win.
Some interspecies romances can be cute, yes. Just not to the extreme. As long as they’re both similar in some way. Any way, really. Just not stuff like bees and humans. That’s just squicky.
AND, what ever happened to ‘best friends forever’? You can love somebody without wanting to… er… you know, don’t you?
Weirdly enough, I found a ton of Jaws slash the other day…
Sorry if I offend anyone, but just in general I don’t approve of slash.
I mean, I guess sometimes it’s understandable… but I don’t like it anyway.
Buzz and Woody is definitely the most common one when it comes to Pixar fandom. Like thedriveintheatre said, the characters are straight, so this doesn’t make any sense. Buzz likes Jessie and Woody likes/liked Bo Peep. So why won’t people stop?
Then, I stumbled upon an Up slashfic that bordered pedophilia… it was entitled “Bath Night” and appears to have been taken down off FanFiction.Net. Whew.
But man… the memories…
Some pairings are really just…freaky. I came across a Buttercup/Stretch fan fiction the other day.