That’s true…but if it could happen then its just fiction.
Sci-Fic. to me is when some sort of impossible event occurs…the earth stopping in its rotation isn’t as impossible. (IMO)
If the earth were to stop everyone would literally be thrown sideways across the earth. New Yorh, Boston, Kyoto, and Miama would literally be thrown into the sea.
Rip-off from “The Day The Earth Stood Still” much? 
Yeah, would a good start to the sequel be an opening battle with the Underminer? How would you guys start the sequel?
Unfortunitly yes…i’ve always wondered what that would look like even before the movie came out. That scene where the truck desintigrates is so powerful…its just perfect.
Okay so please catch me up on what we have decided upon…stuff that needs to be in and stuff that is pending. We really should get organized. (maybe a folder or something)
Underwater Base for Villian
Minor Villian that Vi will (get into)
Major Villian (Maybe Mine) That will be told of through Minor Villian
Must be “changeable” or have the ability to think more openly about ideas, morality.
Viony?? ViKid? prehaps we could create a kid in our image…just combined. I could donate naturally curly hair
How would we start with the underminer…a battle scene with our minor villian watching from the sidelines…dreaming of being a “special” person. We could describe the battle from his point of view and his thoughts.
We could have Kid watch the battle from the “sidelines” with the Underminer in the begining, but remember. In the game TI: Rise of the Underminer, Mr. Incredible and Frozone did most of the battle underground. Violet, Helen and Dash each tried to stop his evil inventions and protect the citezens from harm.
We can create anyone to help “watch” the battle scene…even villians.
Who would like to put together that scene?
or should we get some sort of an outline created first?
Well, for opening the TI sequel, these are two of my favorite possible openings.
The Incredibles are not fighting the Underminer but fighting crime sometime after the Underminer incident. THere, we could have the minor villain spy on them.
Violet and Dash are in a training session while Bob and Helen are patroling the city. Something a little mundane combined with Super.
My openings would be with the major villian so i think a small entry would work better…i’d like to see a mix of both of your ideas.
2 could go first. The family has been recognized as protectors of the city and today protect the city through patrols…
1-while on patrol they are talking about their latest victory over the Underminer. Unfortunitly while on patrol they get a call for help and go to the scene of a crime…while they finish off the bad burglers or whatever they are a minor villian is spying on them. We could end it off there. Maybe even make the villian a citizen and public person…not known as a villian yet.
Or we could start at the main villain’s underwater base. We could find him finalizing his master plan against the world. He then sends a spy to keep an eye on the Incredibles. What the audience doesn’t know is who he is, what he looks like, and if he is a Super or not.
We cut to Violet’s school (she could be in 8th grade or starting her freshman year in high school), we meet a new student, Kid. Everyone thinks he is a new good guy, but no one knows that he is really the spy sent by the major villain.
great idea…we could still include my script i have somewhat writen if that is true…it would work. I’ll keep going on it and give it to you tonight or tomorrow.
I can’t wait to see it.
To Dragon, I know you will be reading this. tell me your ideas on starting the TI sequel.
Okay here is what i have so far…its rather short and could definitly be expanded on. Tell me what you think and i’ll make sure its perfect.
[i]Clank!!! Clank!!! Clank!!!
The sound of metal boots resounded through the corridor as a lone figure walked along. A shadowy lone figure walked along. The surrounding chill of his underwater base didn’t bother him. The mood of his brain made him hot and upset even through the rigid temperatures. He seemed preoccupied and his face was the total look of concentration. “If I can just keep them out of it…” He started to himself. “I shall become ruler of the woorrllddd!!!” And with that he began to laugh, “HA!!! HA!!!HA!!! HA!!! I will enjoy every single second of the pain and the agony of the world as I move forth from this abyss and into my rightful place as king. I will never show mercy to those who have created me into what I am today. I will show no regret or remorse. I will rule with an iron fist!” With that he raised his hand towards the sun from his underwater base and cackled. AU!!! HA!!! HA!!! HA!!! HA!!![/i]
Erm, could you guys hold the posts? I have no time to go through your posts right now, I will go through them later, but till then, please stop posting in this thread, you two. 
sorry… i’ll stop and let you get caught up…
Well, Al-Bob, I think that your little opening for the bad guy seems okay. But I feel as if it is too sudden. I would suspect there would be a couple more characters in there. NOt to mention he has to send his spy to the surface to keep watch for the Incredibles. I think that your little script could be expanded a bit more.
As I have told you through Skype, Star Swordsman, that was no way to talk to me. I see you have even went to the point of deleting your comment, leaving this post seem like I am dillusional.
I think we should work out our differences if we are to work coefficiently. Having hostility among the team is not effective in creating an unbiased story.
I agree.
That was unconventional and unprofessional of me. To ease hostility, I’ll start by formally appologizing to you. I didn’t mean to sound so rude. I hope you will find it in your heart to forgive me, and let bygones be bygones.
I would like for us to work together on this, but if two members are fighting, this makes it entirely difficult to get things done.
So I really am sorry, I hope you accept my appology so we can continue.
All right, I accept. As I have said before on Skype, I do apologize as well if my lecture did sound ridiculously judgmental. Sorry about that.
Time to get to business.
[go into serious mode]
For the beginning of the movie, I enjoy your little vision of how it should take place, Al-Bob; it was definitely amusing. However, that is the problem. I feel that a serious villain should act more than talk a lot. Your villain consistently expresses through words what he is planning to do rather than performing those actions.
It is in my opinion that a silent, cold, speechless (but not muted) villain in a dark cape and hat should be brought into play. Like I said before, the main villain does not necessary have to be entirely human; he could possess certain artifacts of tremendous power that would allow him and his crime ring to dominate and ultimately, overcome the superhuman capabilities of the Supers.
As to whether we should offer the underwater base to the main villain, I actually assumed that it was meant for Kid, but never mind, it would work better for Kid due to his in touch abilities of skipping from building to building - it is all just a magic act, nothing Super really.
Again, I don’t really like the whole Kid working for the bad guys scenario, it does not work very efficiently in providing Kid that sense of justice. If we would want an anti-hero, Mirage is good enough. Repeating this would simply be cliched and expected, something I seriously would not consider, especially after watching WALL-E. No offense.
Having Kid spying on the Supers, on the other hand, soubds like a great way for him to start off as a character.
I would need some time to think of a very deep plot, but till then, feel free (now) to go ahead without me. 
I know, the irony.
Here are some ideas about the plot that I hope you guys would consider:
Logical story lines: No characters ‘happening to be at some place at some time’ coincedentally without reason; any available struggle with conscience in any character must be evidenced with speeches or actions; villains do not make a mistake that would seem like the filmmakers whisper in their ears to let the heroes go so that the story could move on, etc, etc.
Deep exploitation of every character as much as possible: Villain A is a ruthless mob boss, but he has three children and a lovely wife that he loves to the extent that he would sacrifice for each of them, even the whiny wife which consistently suggests that Villain A quits his job so that his life could be preserved, and that they could live a peaceful life. Villain’s Son A is a military officer, thus leaving him highly unsupportive of Villain A’s actions. Daughter B is a drug dealer with a heart (unlike her father’s cruel nature). She only deals with money, but never kills anyone. Despite so, her brother, Son A feels that it is Villain A’s fault that his daughter has been influenced by his life of crime.
It goes on and on, but every character should be exploited and given compelling and emotional back stories, even the most minor ones, and if possible, have intertwining story lines with other characters, making it one freaking awesome plot that just grips our throat so hard it suffocates us till our air supply runs out in a matter of seconds.
The villains must not be Goofy’s offsprings: Amatuer villains are funny, but they suceeding in stopping the heroes, though not commonly seen, is a rather unrealistic act. However…
The villains can be Spawns of Goofy, but must be in a sensible fashion: In 300, we see Ephialtes betraying the Spartan soldiers by joining the Persians and fighting the Spartans instead. This is sensible because the Spartans trusted Ephialtes - or at least their king, Leonidas, does - leaving the Spartans at a disadvantage.
Basically, examine each action of the villains before allowing them to perform them. Ask questions like: Does this make any sense? Or does it just make cents? Would the appropriate interactions the heroes should have move the story the way we want it to be moved? How do these actions affect the entirety of the story? Remember, in the NBC holy freaking crap of awesomness TV series, Heroes, even the smallest actions have the biggest consequences. Do something like that to get deep story lines.
But remember, we want to set a serious tone for the main villain, so I would suggest not to include any goofs for the villains, unless you want their leader to be Mickey Mouse’s clumsy canine friend. 
As you can see, making the correct one-liners is very important, especially for an action movie. We would not want the entire movie to be filled with one-liners like the abovementioned disaster movie, but we should create some very memorable ones like Syndrome’s…
“And got busy!”
“You’re weak, and I’ve outgrown you…”
“And when everybody’s Super, haha haha, no one will be.”
“You are truly Mr Incredible.”
and my personal favorite,
“You can’t count on anyone, especially your heroes.”
The normal lines have to be great, too, so that we could learn more about the characters’ personalities and thoughts, but body movements such as those applied in WALL-E, works well, too, so we have a variety of choices for choosing here.
[stares at Samuel L. Jackson]
What? Just an example. No need to go Fury on me.
Oh, and I know what some of you are thinking, but don’t; Mr Freeze’s ice puns and Frozone added together equals
[add classic nuclear explosion scene here lasting twenty seconds]
That’s my two cents on that, Ominous ‘Not Fifty Cents’ Flare, signing off.
One more thing I would like to suggest; we should discuss this privately so that we could surprise the readers when we launch the sequel. It is going to be freaking awesome. It is going to be a movie event. It is going to cost them nothing, which is freaking ironic compared to the large amount of crappy movies out there in Holly-freaking-wood.
So, Al-Bob, I think it is best if you create a Skype account so that we could interact privately. If you feel you are in no position to do so, let us interact through private messaging, and we could use this thread for auditioning anyone who wants a piece of this motherload project, and to keep the people informed about the non-spoilers of the sequel project.
What do you think? 
I can try to get skype but it won’t be easy…i’m really thinking about getting a microsoft Hotmail instead. I can try but i might not be able to do that…if the worst comes to the worst i could just use my email…it would take longer but i check it 2-3 times a day so i could respond in about a couple of hours.
Can we make a list that is smaller so that we can start seeing the outline of the story in more detail…all i see are guidelines and no real direction.
