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Postby red.baron » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:14 am

There are lots of problems with the Young Epoch version of Stinky Pete besides the current prices for the different versions of them. For one thing, the box and product isn't even movie accurate, meaning it's missing the gold pan, missing the faux wooden paneling inside the box, missing the cutouts of the moon on each side of the box. Even the box text is not entirely accurate. The body "clothing" of the movie character appears as molded, painted, hard plastic (hat may be the exception?) while the Young Epoch version is made of fabric. And where is the standout shiny gold tooth? Yes, we all fall back to the, "Well, it's the closest we're going to get to the movie version so it's the best" mantra. But, it still is not accurate and it's definitely not worth the current going prices that most general Toy Story collectors are willing to pay.

Regarding the seller on eBay (from Quebec) who is currently trying to sell the $800 (as of November 4, 2014) Stinky Pete: he has been trying to sell that thing for many months now. I offered him $700 for it back in June or July and he turned down. Shortly after my offer, he tried selling it for $699 (yes, my eyebrows were raised when I saw that); no one bought it and I was no longer interested. So, after two weeks at $699, he bumped the price up to $1199. Still scratching my head over that one. He changes the selling price--and sometimes the shipping cost--on a fairly regular basis. Now, I just enjoy watching his Stinky Pete auction more for entertainment purposes because of his pricing changes from week to week. (If I'm not mistaken, at one point, he was trying to sell it for $1999.) Caveat emptor.

Like so many other Toy Story fans, I hope Thinkway will rethink Thinky Pete... er, I mean, Stinky Pete...wait, I mean the Prospector.
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Postby TheSpaceSheriff » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:13 am

Rant time!

Sometimes, I wish Thinkway would actually listen to the collectors for once. There is an obvious interest in their toys by fans and we are willing to spend close to $60 on their high quality products. All we ask is for more secondary characters to receive some representation in their toy line. They seem to care little about the obvious demand for Stinky Pete, Combat Carl, etc. I think that children will buy any Toy Story toy that has some resemblance to the characters onscreen and has some sort of gimmick that makes them appealing.

With the amount of limited edition dolls Disney Store puts out and the recent Hero-Villain combo pack back in 2012, I would have thought that Prospector might have seen some sort of re-release by now. Disney Store tends to be more hush with their projects which makes them more unreliable to try to appeal to. I believe that they have more potential to pick up where Thinkway left off on their products to cash in on Toy Story Replicas. The most I've seen from them was the release of Zurg, Rex, and Karate-Chop Buzz Lightyear.

I'm not sure how involved Pixar is with what is manufactured by Thinkway but it might be possible to ask for accurate renditions of some lesser focused characters. Notable heads like Lee Unkrich obviously has seen the dedication by fans of the series with wampar's toy collection and Angus MacLane set up a "kickstarter-esque" campaign for the Lego bunny; clearly they are aware of the interest.

I'm not entirely sure how we can make our demands known, but I guess addressing them to multiple outlets might send the message. Keep in mind, this rant is based on pure frustration and wishful thinking but it does raise some valid points.
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Postby PixarDude » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:45 pm

As much as I need a Stinky Pete, I really don't want Disney Store to make it, as the quality on their Toy Story toys has gone down. With that said, I would probably still get it, as Stinky Pete is mostly plush (I'm guessing). Another thing is that he wouldn't have his movie-accurate box, which is one of the main things I need a Prospector with.

What I mean by the quality has gone way down is this: I have the Buzz and Zurg set and I wasn't impressed with the quality at all. Just touching them I could tell they were cheap plastic. Well, while I was playing with Buzz (not rough play), his leg snapped off! Keep in mind I was 12 when I got them.

If a 12 year old's toy breaks, imagine what a 5 year old's Buzz would be like. It'd probably be broken in a month! One thing I love about Thinkway's toys is that their products are very high quality, and even though they're expensive, they gonna last if you play with them. I have most of the TSC and out of all of them, Buzz is the one you have to get. I got mine 5 years ago and other than a few minor scuff marks and parts of the plastic clear bulbs around the end being cracked, everything still works.
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Postby Dinoco » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:58 am

red.baron wrote:There are lots of problems with the Young Epoch version of Stinky Pete besides the current prices for the different versions of them. For one thing, the box and product isn't even movie accurate, meaning it's missing the gold pan, missing the faux wooden paneling inside the box, missing the cutouts of the moon on each side of the box. Even the box text is not entirely accurate. The body "clothing" of the movie character appears as molded, painted, hard plastic (hat may be the exception?) while the Young Epoch version is made of fabric. And where is the standout shiny gold tooth? Yes, we all fall back to the, "Well, it's the closest we're going to get to the movie version so it's the best" mantra. But, it still is not accurate and it's definitely not worth the current going prices that most general Toy Story collectors are willing to pay.

Regarding the seller on eBay (from Quebec) who is currently trying to sell the $800 (as of November 4, 2014) Stinky Pete: he has been trying to sell that thing for many months now. I offered him $700 for it back in June or July and he turned down. Shortly after my offer, he tried selling it for $699 (yes, my eyebrows were raised when I saw that); no one bought it and I was no longer interested. So, after two weeks at $699, he bumped the price up to $1199. Still scratching my head over that one. He changes the selling price--and sometimes the shipping cost--on a fairly regular basis. Now, I just enjoy watching his Stinky Pete auction more for entertainment purposes because of his pricing changes from week to week. (If I'm not mistaken, at one point, he was trying to sell it for $1999.) Caveat emptor.

Like so many other Toy Story fans, I hope Thinkway will rethink Thinky Pete... er, I mean, Stinky Pete...wait, I mean the Prospector.

"Play And Enjoy This Toy!" Yeah, I don't think they were going for complete screen accuracy with this one.

In all seriousness, I don't think they weren't even meant to be replicas, the fact that they're based off the marionettes makes it clear. But it's the "close enough crowd that took interest in Prospector and (formerly Bullseye). It was a cool series, but seemed to be built as a novelty collectible and not a toy.
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Postby PixarDude » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:21 pm

I didn't think it was very accurate either. Probably the most accurate Prospector is the DS one from I believe 1999 0r 2000, which had a plastic head. I don't think it's in scale to the movie, though. DOes anyone know how tall Prospector is in the movie compared to Woody?
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Postby Dinoco » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:48 pm

I'd like to give a shoutout to the best fan made Prospector I've ever seen:
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This guy's work is unreal, check out more on his page:
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Expression is dead on. Only minor, minor nitpicks are the lack of sifting pan, open finger hand (same model as Woody '95), and if this got the Thinkway treatment, maybe a the same material as Woody's shirt for the bandana.
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Postby Kyle » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:30 am

Now that we have a new movie coming we're bound to get characters that fans have been clamoring for for a while. I would be surprised if we didn't get a proper Trixie now. Probably Stinky pete too. They've exhausted the more popular characters already, so unless they just plan on going back and redoing the characters we already have, but even better, along with any new characters, us collectors should be in for a treat.
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Postby Dinoco » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:05 am

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We barely made it through the main cast with the Toy Story Collection, and much of Wave 2 was scarcely seen in stores. By the time Wave 3 came around, there wasn't much thought put into the continuing of the line. We're going to get the main characters again, and that'll probably be it; I don't predict any fan favorites to be revived for the new film.
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Postby TheSpaceSheriff » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:17 am

Dinoco wrote:Image

We barely made it through the main cast with the Toy Story Collection, and much of Wave 2 was scarcely seen in stores. By the time Wave 3 came around, there wasn't much thought put into the continuing of the line. We're going to get the main characters again, and that'll probably be it; I don't predict any fan favorites to be revived for the new film.

Heh, Toy Story .gifs are always perfect.

In reality, only time will tell for the fate of the merchandise. I would personally like for any toy company to just make accurate toys for minor characters but we all know that I'm just wishing out loud. Maybe the eve of Toy Story 20th anniversary might turn the tides? I'm not too sure myself but I'm excited to see where this announcement and Toy Story That Time Forgot will take us.
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Postby Kyle » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:28 am

Dinoco wrote:Image

We barely made it through the main cast with the Toy Story Collection, and much of Wave 2 was scarcely seen in stores. By the time Wave 3 came around, there wasn't much thought put into the continuing of the line. We're going to get the main characters again, and that'll probably be it; I don't predict any fan favorites to be revived for the new film.

The line fizzled out because the movie had started to run its course, marketing wise. While I'm sure the main characters will get top priority once again, I still think they will slip in a handful of others in the vein of Zurg. It'll be random and possibly bare bones, but it will be to scale.
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Postby TheSpaceSheriff » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:33 am

Kyle wrote:
Dinoco wrote:Image

We barely made it through the main cast with the Toy Story Collection, and much of Wave 2 was scarcely seen in stores. By the time Wave 3 came around, there wasn't much thought put into the continuing of the line. We're going to get the main characters again, and that'll probably be it; I don't predict any fan favorites to be revived for the new film.

The line fizzled out because the movie had started to run its course, marketing wise. While I'm sure the main characters will get top priority once again, I still think they will slip in a handful of others in the vein of Zurg. It'll be random and possibly bare bones, but it will be to scale.

Disney Store should take more risks with minor characters. Zurg was so popular that he was eventually sold separately. As of right now, they do not carry him on the website which seems odd. Re-release for the holiday season perhaps?
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Postby Dinoco » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:41 am

SpaceSheriff, you bring up a good point with the 20th anniversary in sight. No doubt we'll get some sort of special re-release, I'm anxious to see what special features they'll add in that department. In terms of toys, I can see a small promotion, maybe full sized Woody and Buzz to commemorate the originals, maybe we'll see more Toy Story '95-oriented merchandise.

Though for The Toy Story That Time Forgot, I don't see much happening. Toy Story of Terror only had small amount of merchandise in promotion.

And Kyle, Disney Store actually doesn't rely too much on a recent film to put out a special product; like you said, there was Zurg, as well as the Bucket O Soldiers, and Hamm (though I think Hamm might've been closer to TS3's release). There's no particular pattern to Disney Store's releases, though I guess the probability is a little better when there's a film out there.

For Thinkway, Wave 1 was much in advance of Toy Story 3's release, and mainly focused on characters from the first film. The second wave hit during the peak of Toy Story 3's success, but that's when they started to go downhill. I'll agree that the multiple delays and changed plans hurt the release of the third wave.
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Postby Kyle » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:56 am

You don't think Zurg was made possible because of TS3? Even though it was at the tail of it, I'd still say that was part of the TS3 push. I doubt we would have ever gotten him otherwise. It was random in that he was only in the credits of TS3, but not That random. While Disney store doesn't need an excuse all the time, they still need that extra nudge every one in a while for the more substantial stuff.

TS4, in my option, should give them the push they need to help us flesh out their back catalog of highly requested toys that never quite got a release.
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Postby PixarDude » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:01 am

One thing I would love to see Thinkway do is reissue, for a limited time, the original Buzz and Woody dolls form '95. Also, since the 15th anniversary of TS2 is coming up on the 13th (has it really been that long?), they could unveil something special but I highly doubt it.
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Postby Kyle » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:12 am

Why would they need to bother re releasing 95 merch? They still sell the old style Woody and Buzz's don't they? Or at least they did a few years ago.

I don't think we need anything that's not more accurate than what we have now.


As far as redoing characters go, I wonder if they'll do Jessie right this time. They were so close with the toy story collection, just change some of the fabric and thin out the torso.
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